Foolish Pleasure

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More and more, take a rest around the wall.

Okay, like that is good.

John, you've seen most of the derby winners in the past 10 -15 years.

How would you compare foolish pleasure to some of the better ones you've seen? Every year is a different era.

It's like trying to match fighters from one time to the other.

Every horse that has a chance to run in a derby and wins a derby has accomplished a great thing.

So you can't say one's better than the other.

That's my theory.

I don't know about anybody else's.

Like Fargo, he can run until six, seven years old.

But he's not going to run until this fall because he's got other commitments.

He's got to make old babies.

People get four and a half million dollars for him.

I was going to say, you said that you had had him insured for five million dollars.

I didn't say that.

I was misquoted.

I said I imagine he might be insured for that much money.

We were just making a statement how much it cost to insure one of these things.

The premiums are very high.

It's about 25 percent to insure.

And I was just talking to that one fellow there.

And it was just a statement.

It was misinterpreted.

I don't know exactly how much it is, but it should be pretty close to that.

As far as the race here tomorrow is concerned, how does it look to you? Do you see any real competition for foolish pleasure? Anytime you run, you have competition.

It makes no difference who it is.

There's no easy thing.

Every race is tough, and they're all tough.

If you had to pick a horse tomorrow that might challenge foolish pleasure, who might it be? How many horses in the race? Eight.

Eight? I'd have to say there's about seven challenges.

You're playing it pretty close to the best on this one, John.

Well, you have to.

I mean, every horse is in there, and they're weighted.

You know, why they're weighted.

And this is why they're in there for it, because they've all got a chance.

Every horse has a chance.

You can't say one has too much better chance than the other, but that's why they're handicapped that way.

To bring them down pretty close to equal.

As far as this horse is concerned, do you see it eventually going into syndication a la secretariat? Well, he's already been syndicated.

He's been syndicated over a year.

Do you think that after he races this fall, will then a decision be made on his racing future beyond that, or...

His racing future is over in November.

That's it? That's it.

He goes to Instud next spring in February.

Can we just get...I'll ask you some of the same questions I just asked.

John, if you had to pick a challenger, who would you pick as a challenger to foolish pleasure tomorrow? There's all eight horses in there.

Every one of them's got a shot.

When you were riding, did you approach every race that way? Did you look for a particular horse, or did you think, hey, look, anybody can beat me? You've got to have...everything could beat you, but you've got to have the aggressiveness to try to beat them too.

But you can't drop nothing out and say this horse is no count, because this is the horse that had to beat you.

Every horse that's in a race has a shot.

That's why the people put them in there.

If you had to describe foolish pleasure as a horse, how would you describe him as a runner? Like I said, more so like he's more so like a Larry Zonk or a Marciano comparing to O .J.

Simpson and Muhammad Ali.

Identifier

F.2012-03-0906

Date Of Production

August 6 1976

Abstract

An interview with Foolish Pleasure’s assistant trainer John Nazareth on August 6, 1976, the day before the Golden Invitational Handicap was held at Arlington Park.

Description

This film opens with several shots of groom Frank Morris posing with Foolish Pleasure in a stable as WLS-TV Channel 7 reporter Mike Nolan observes. In the following scene, Nolan strolls outside the stable with Foolish Pleasure’s assistant trainer John Nazareth and he begins to interview Nazareth for his opinions concerning the following day’s race at Arlington Park. Nolan repetitively presses Nazareth to compare Foolish Pleasure with other horses, but Nazareth’s responses remain philosophically noncommittal. The film concludes with an exterior shot of Arlington Park’s sign with Foolish Pleasure’s name flashing beneath it.

Foolish Pleasure went on to win the $125,000 Golden Invitational Handicap which was the horse's final race.

Run Time

0:04:47

Format

16mm

Extent

169 feet

Color

Color

Sound

Mag Stripe

Reel/Tape Number

1/1

Has Been Digitized?

Yes

Element

Print

Genre

Interview
Journalism
Sports

Form

Interviews

Subject

Horses
Racing
Sports

Related Collections

SUBSERIES II: Sports

Related Places

North America ➜ United States ➜ Illinois ➜ Arlington Heights

Distributor

WLS-TV

Main Credits

Koza, Frank (is filmmaker)

Participants And Performers

Nazareth, John (is participant)

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