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I'd say, did you really do this?

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Come on Eddie, fess up.

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Yeah, fess up.

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Because people, the nature of man is they'd rather believe something bad about you than

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something good.

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This is true.

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28 minutes after 8 o'clock, four days, four days before you go to the polls and you cast

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those votes, what do you-

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We're going to have all the, our next guest is going to tell us who's going to win every

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single election.

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We have with us at the bottom of the hour.

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An astrologer.

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Yeah, Catherine de Jersey.

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She's going to tell us everything about everything.

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I'm going to ask her about the stock market.

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Got to be there by 8.30, you've got a minute.

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He's Everdoliac, I'm Ty Wansley on Chicago's hottest talk, the new AM 1160, WJJD.

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If you love what you're-

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WJJD News Time, 9.05.

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Time for traffic updates.

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Here's Mary DeBadges.

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Curt the eastbound side of the northwest.

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Jack and Ty Wansley on Chicago's new AM 1160, WJJD.

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9.07, time marches on.

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Happy hour.

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It's happy hour.

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Tyin' it.

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And even better than that, it's election time in Chicago.

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Does that make you happy?

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Yes it does.

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Why?

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I get excited around election time, I really do.

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I know there are dirty tricks, I know there are scandalous activity, but there's an electricity

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in the air around election time.

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I love it.

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That's one reason why I came to this town.

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I used to work in Washington, D.C.

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I thought the politics there were a wick-whack.

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There is nothing like Chicago politics, it's a very unique animal.

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You're right, but the mayoral race so far is a yarner.

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The city clerk and city treasurer's races might have more heat on them than the mayoral

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But the automatic campaigns?

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But the automatic campaigns, that's where the fire is.

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It is hot.

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So you can call and talk to us about whatever you wish, whether we talked about it today

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or not.

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We're specifically looking for questions concerning elections, but those of you who are on the

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phones to talk to us about other things, we're still going to get to you and we thank you

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for calling and let's go to the phones.

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Let's go to Tony from the south side of Chicago.

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Tony, good morning, you're on Chicago's hottest talk.

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Hi Tony.

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Hi Ty and Ed, thanks for having me on.

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Alright, what's up?

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Well, I'll tell you, Mayor Daley's got everybody out in the 27th ward working against us.

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I'm a volunteer for Walter, I don't know, excuse me.

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Wallace Davis.

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Wallace Davis, the third.

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For young Wallace Davis.

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Yeah, the third.

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His father's running in the 28th ward.

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Yeah, I think so.

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What makes you think the mayor's got people out against you?

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Well, first of all, every time we try to do some work, we have people that have walkie

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talkies following us and asking us our names.

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Walkie talkies?

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It's American.

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Yeah, right to the police, because that's when the police stop us and say, let's see

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some ID.

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We tell them, either arrest us or you're not getting our ID and then they just go off

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and they keep following us.

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You're kidding.

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Not only that, I have a relative in there that had a Wallace Davis sign, they want him

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to put Burnett up.

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They're intimidating him to take him down.

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Burnett is, for all of those out there that don't know, Mr. Burnett is the candidate in

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the 27th ward endorsed by the mayor who was himself a convicted felon who did time for

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bank robbery and kidnapping.

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He is now supported by Mayor Daley.

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He said he was a young guy.

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Which proves that Mayor Daley is a forgiving person and wants to see if he can be rehabilitated

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by getting an elected position.

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Although the strongest candidate in there, I think, or one of the strongest candidates,

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should be the incumbent alderman, Dexter Watson, correct?

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Well, I'll just tell you, it's kind of scary for the businesses even.

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I mean, there's a lady I know owns a beauty parlor.

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She says she wouldn't put up a sign.

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Next thing you know, there's the city's inspectors.

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There's even a letter that just went out, Italian Americans for Burnett.

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Now one of them is from the 27th ward.

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You know, you might...

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Which Italian Americans are for Burnett?

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Which Italian Americans for Burnett?

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Which ones were on the letter?

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Whose names were on the letter?

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Oh, I've got to remember which one was on the letter.

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Oh man, I can't remember.

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Not anybody from the MCC or any place, no.

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All right.

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All right.

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Nobody from...

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It has anything to do with the ward though.

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You know what I'm saying?

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They're just trying to make the orders diffuse.

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Suck it up and keep on going.

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That's all.

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Oh, we go.

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We're going to have some big surprises for them coming up.

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Now listen, you go up and down Madison, you go up and down Kedzie, for example, certain

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places on Chicago Avenue.

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There are lots of those little beauty parlors that you mentioned.

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I mean, those are staples on the West Side.

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What are you saying about those businesses?

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Are you saying they should be leery?

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They should be where?

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No, no, no.

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I actually know somebody that was...

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I don't know what that means, but they're not coppers.

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They're bluffing.

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I'm not going for that.

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They're bluffing.

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Somebody else.

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Thank you for the call.

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Thanks for the call.

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I'm not going for that.

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Let's go to George on...

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We got a good bum rap in the Irish, Ty.

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Irish are people too.

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What do you mean, Ty?

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Yeah.

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I say up the Irish.

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What are you talking about?

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I say up them too.

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Let's go to George on the Northwest Side on line two.

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Hey, George.

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Good morning, gentlemen.

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George, what's the election day going to be like?

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Well, I'll tell you.

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It's disgusting.

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I'll tell you, our precinct captains today are not what we used to be.

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I was the precinct captain for Alderman Pasini in the 10th Ward.

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I was the number one precinct captain...

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Amo V. Pasini.

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Amo Pasini.

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Oh my God, you're going back...

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I'm also a number one precinct captain for Tom Keane, not Earl Keane, Tom Keane.

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I also received a diamond ring.

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And I'll tell you, I was the best...

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Whose ring was it?

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Huh?

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Whose ring was it?

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You didn't get the...

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Well, that's before your time.

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I'll bet.

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The finger wasn't still attached, was it?

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But I'll tell you, the precinct captains are number one.

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They're not what they used to be, Eddie.

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You've got to be an honest and sincere precinct captain with them.

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But people today are not.

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You know what the problem is...

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I never held a political job, but I was a good precinct captain.

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You know what the problem is, George, why the precinct captain is a dying breed also?

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It's because our society is so mobile.

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Neighborhoods aren't like they were where you had two or three generations living in

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the same neighborhood.

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Everybody knew everybody.

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Correct.

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You knew everybody's father, their brother.

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The neighborhood bar was a place that everybody hung around.

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The church was as well.

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And everybody looked out for one another.

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Eddie, you can still do it.

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It still can be done.

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But you've got to be a precinct captain.

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You've got to be honest and sincere with your people.

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All right.

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George, you got a diamond ring for being a good precinct captain?

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And a gold watch for Alderman Pasini.

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I've missed my call.

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For being a number one precinct captain.

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Amo V. Pasini got beat in 1963.

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He was a powerhouse in the city of San Diego.

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He was chairman of building and zoning.

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Right.

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He was a good Alderman.

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He got beat in 1963 by John Buchanan.

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Buchanan, right.

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Who was a young man, insurance guy, who won two terms at eight years until 1971.

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I ran against John in 1971.

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I was fortunate enough to win that election.

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I served four terms, 16 years.

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John Buchanan was on my staff then.

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That was a good word.

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The tenth word was a good word.

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Then my brother Vic served for four years.

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Then John Buchanan was elected again in 1991.

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He's running for reelection today.

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There's some history for it.

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But Amo Pasini, gee, I haven't heard of...

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What did the V stand for?

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Victorious?

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I was a kid.

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I know you were a kid.

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I was a Ted that Amo Pasini drove around.

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He was a race car driver too.

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He drove around...

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The V stand for Victory Lab.

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...in the 40s.

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We all knew his car.

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It was a convertible that you saw in some of those old movies.

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The Chrysler convertible, town and country with the wood on the sides.

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It was absolutely...

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That's probably why I wanted to win for all of it.

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I wanted to get a car.

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You wanted to be like Amo.

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Okay.

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There were no dope peddlers to model yourself after then.

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We had to go for politicians and doctors and lawyers.

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Oh, boy.

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Amo Pasini.

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Let's go to line 11.

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All right.

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Let's go to Allen.

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Good morning.

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You're on Chicago's hottest talk.

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Hi, Allen.

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All right.

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This is Tom Allen.

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All of them are Tom Allen?

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Yes, sir.

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38th Ward.

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Your name was called this morning.

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Yeah.

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Somebody told me.

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They were calling the roll.

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How's the campaign going, Alderman?

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It's going fine, I believe.

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There's no problems in our ward.

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How many absentees come in?

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I think the number is about 1,100.

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That's a nice number.

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Yeah.

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It's less than it was four years ago.

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But the issues are being addressed by all the candidates.

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I heard one of the callers say that the FOP endorsed me over police officers running against me.

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I'm grateful to the FOP for the endorsement, but I have many friends that are police officers.

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I think the reason is I've been very responsive to their union.

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When the mayor tried to raise the health care benefits on the retired city workers, I led the charge.

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When our lawn sign is down, we put them up the next day.

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And we just keep replacing them.

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And it actually angers my supporters, the people who have their signs damaged and vandalized.

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But that's life in Chicago, as you say.

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But I just hope everybody comes out and votes, regardless of who they vote for, who the candidate is.

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There's a lot of apathy out there, and you guys have talked about it.

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And I heard your comments from...

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Alderman Allen, who are you for for City Treasurer?

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For City Treasurer?

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We haven't been really endorsing or...

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All right, who are you for for City Clerk?

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Well, we're with Jim Lasky.

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He's been dropping his literature off and he's appeared at some things.

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Okay.

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But that's what I'm concerned about.

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Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

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Mayor Daley has said time and time again he's a good manager.

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Could you give me some examples of how?

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How the mayor is a good manager?

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What's he managing well?

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Well, I'll tell you something.

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You know, I'm going to give this to you straight.

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I don't know, a year and a half.

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Give it to me straight.

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I will.

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And I have dealt with the mayor's different season prosecutors, and I think he surrounds himself with tremendous people.

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I personally, you know, does he manage everything?

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Well, I doubt that.

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Personally, does he...

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Have the streets redone, then the alleys.

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Well, go see your alderman.

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I will.

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Let's go to Lottie on line 12.

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Wait a minute, we got to break.

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We got to break.

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But before we do, but before we do, you know a lot of people are still harkening back to those old,

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old council war days, and race has become such an intrinsic part of Chicago campaigns.

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And Mayor Daley is touting himself as saying, I've brought racial tranquility.

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That's what the Sun-Time said in its endorsement.

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Right.

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That's what the Tribune said in its endorsement.

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And people are saying that it's racially tranquil now.

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I'm wondering...

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And he's got endorsement from a whole large group of...

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A lot of black ministers.

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Black ministers and black contractors.

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But let's make a comparison contract.

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He's got it going his way, yeah.

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A lot of people looked at the old council wars, the 29-21, and I think it's unfortunate that it boiled down to race.

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They saw the battle between you and Mayor Washington too many times, unfortunately, as black and white.

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But I'm telling you, as a journalist covering city council, I marveled at some of the exchanges between you and the late mayor, like this one.

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Alderman Verdotak, second time.

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Second and last time.

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First of all, I'd like to thank you for the tip you gave me last Friday when I went to the track, Mr. Mayor.

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A better gesture would be to divide the profits.

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Mr. President...

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Mr. President, I've been...

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Mr. President, I've been trying to tell you that for 11 months.

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So you bet on a horse named Sweet Harold. You had a hunch.

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How could you pass that up?

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You had to do it.

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How could you pass that up? What would happen if the horse won and you didn't bet him and you were there?

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There you go. You gotta split the profits.

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Sometimes you just gotta do.

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So there was some light activity behind the council wars. I like that.

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591W JJD, 977-1160, it's election time in Chicago.

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What do you think's gonna happen next Tuesday? Good day, bad day, scandalous day? Go figure.

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It'll be an interesting day. I think there'll be at least one surprise in the elections.

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And if there are any members of 21st Century Vote, we had Gator Bradley on with us a couple of days ago,

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and he named the distinction between gang bangers and gang members,

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and he said he welcomes the support of 21st Century Vote.

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I don't know if they can call.

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Don't those leg monitors interfere with the phone?

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Will you stop it? No.

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So if anyone out there is a member of 21st Century Vote, or you support 21st Century Vote,

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remember we had Earl King, the founder of 21st Century Vote.

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No Dope Express.

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We'd like to hear from them. Phones are open.

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Talk to us about whatever you wish. Our phone number is 591W JJD, 977-1160.

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And let's go to the phones. Let's go to Lottie on line 12. Hello, Lottie.

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From Bensonville. Hi, Lottie.

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Hello. Hi.

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It's been a long ride.

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Extra prayers today, and I guarantee you, life will be better.

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By 10 o'clock?

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Okay.

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Or our sponsors.

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Let me make a note of this.

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Psychic Yak Yak did not like that disclaimer.

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Your psychic yak yak.

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Right.

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As in don't talk back.

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Let's go to Joseph on line 15.

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I knew you were going to go to him.

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It's tie and end.

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I can feel it.

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Yes it is.

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Hey Joseph. Hey Joe.

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It's nice talking to you guys.

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Yeah.

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Well, did you get my question was when my children going to be returned back?

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They were kidnapped by Oak Park Police and DCFS.

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Or Hobart 7.

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Your children were kidnapped by Oak Park Police and the Department of Children and Family Services?

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Correct.

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I say they will come back to you as soon as you get a very, very good lawyer as well as pass all psychological testing.

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Killer today of AIDS is AZT.

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And you have probably seen in the mainstream they have been starting to print stuff.

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They've got the virus in them, but not one has ever had full blown AIDS.

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All right.

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Thank you, Eva.

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Thank you for the information.

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And certainly.

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If you can, I'd like you to fax us something on this Eva or Rytus.

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Fax number is 3.

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I think we should move on.

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Oh, we got some politics.

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Let's go to Sam on line three.

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Sam, good morning.

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Good morning.

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You're calling from the pay phone.

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Where's that phone located?

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On the southwest side.

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What ward?

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23rd.

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I thought so.

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Actually, my name is Paul.

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My dad was on the line before.

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Okay, what's up Paul?

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Well, I'd like to discuss about the 23rd ward.

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Yeah.

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Last automatic election, I was campaigning for an appointment of Jim Lasky.

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Yeah.

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And well, it was very cold out that morning.

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It's always cold on election day.

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Isn't it?

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And well, the signs for Lasky were blowing down, you know, because of the wind and stuff

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like that.

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Right.

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And one of his men thought I was knocking him down and was going to shove one in my

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rear end.

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Uh-huh.

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You know.

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That's hard.

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Yeah.

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I would like to see him do that.

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I would like to see him do that.

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How are you guys on a pay phone with two guys talking?

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No, no.

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We're in our office.

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Your office.

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You're not working, are you?

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No.

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No.

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I wish.

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I only wish.

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But anyways.

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What are you, a tag team?

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All right.

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What's going on?

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Come on, talk to us, Paul.

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Okay.

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Well, anyways.

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He tried to put the sign where the sun don't shine.

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Right, right, right.

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Now what happened?

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He kept threatening me all day.

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You know, he was going to do this, he was going to do this and do this, you know.

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And what did you do?

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Well, I kind of ignored it.

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But after a while, it got kind of.

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Okay.

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Eddie, I want to talk to you.

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I'll tell you what, Paul.

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We're going to keep our eye out on that election, okay?

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Yes, yes.

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Hey, Eddie?

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Yeah.

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This is his dad.

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Listen.

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There's a store there that's called In-N-Out.

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In-N-Out.

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On the 63rd Oak Park.

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By there.

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He got the best system for all the voters.

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You know what he does?

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No.

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He puts all the signs in the window.

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Yeah.

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See, this way nobody can have no.

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For every candidate.

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Huh?

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For every candidate.

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Right.

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This way nobody can come down and pull them down because their candidate's up there.

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It's very good.

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All right.

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All right, Eddie.

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Take care of yourself.

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Thanks for the call.

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In-N-Out.

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Yeah.

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Over by there.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to put my glasses on.

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I have to squint a lot here, too.

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Yeah.

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But they don't call you tiny.

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John in Kenosha.

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Hey, John.

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Hello, Eddie and Todd.

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Great program.

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Yesterday I called and I told them I didn't like the afternoon programs.

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Gordon Liddy I loved, but I didn't like his.

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Are you in Kenosha, Wisconsin?

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Yes.

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Yes, I listened.

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I guess you guys improved your.

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Improved your.

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Oh yeah, the show's a lot better.

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Transfers thing statistics out there.

481
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Well, I just think they're all wet putting AIDS up there.

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Well, we've invited the Red Cross on.

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Bob in Evergreen Park.

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Good morning, Bob.

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Good morning there, guys.

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Listen, Eddie, there was an editorial in the Tribune last Friday on a new gun law for the

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state of Illinois.

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Scandalous activity.

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I want to hear from someone in 21st Century Vote because they've been making headlines.

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First you got to steal a radio.

491
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Well, you stop it.

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I'm just kidding.

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You know I'm kidding.

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Speaking of scandalous activity, people in 21st Century Vote are getting hottest talk.

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Get a prescription, Phil.

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Other pharmacies give you a printout.

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But items you'll need, many at special redo days prices.

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And of course, Builders Square is your number one resource for helpful advice on any home

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improvement project you're planning.

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So there's absolutely no reason to repress your urge to refurbish.

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They'll get you squared away.

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You're listening to Ed Verdolak and Ty Wansley, the hottest morning team in Chicago.

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With the hottest talk in Chicago on the new AM1160 WJJD.

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Lots of calls, let's go right to the phone.

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And why is it the hottest talk?

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I don't know.

515
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Because it's election time in Chicago.

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It's line 13, Sirelda.

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Sirelda, from Riverside.

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Yes.

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What's up?

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Oh, I want to ask you, are they allowing these convicted felons to run in the automatic

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elections?

522
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Yes, they are.

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My comment is this, if they allow convicted felons to run, and if they should get elected,

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they'll only open the door for more convicted felons to run the city.

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And we are governed by the city and by these convicted felons.

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Some of them can't even speak English, for heaven's sake.

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00:17:48.820 --> 00:17:51.760
They can't even understand what they're talking about.

528
00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:54.240
This is part of the Mayor Daily Rehabilitation Program.

529
00:17:54.700 --> 00:17:57.040
If we get these people jobs, then they don't have to go back to jail.

530
00:17:57.820 --> 00:18:00.320
And I don't think that's right at all.

531
00:18:00.320 --> 00:18:00.740
Okay.

532
00:18:00.740 --> 00:18:05.900
Because if a convicted felon can run for Alderman, he can run for Mayor and get elected

533
00:18:05.900 --> 00:18:09.360
as Mayor or Governor and get elected as a Governor.

534
00:18:09.760 --> 00:18:12.120
And they're the people that are governing us.

535
00:18:13.220 --> 00:18:16.340
Well, not all bad people have been to jail and have been convicted.

536
00:18:16.420 --> 00:18:19.200
There's some folks out there that have done things wrong that should have gone to jail.

537
00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:21.740
You remember the name Spiro Agnew, don't you?

538
00:18:21.840 --> 00:18:22.280
Yes.

539
00:18:22.320 --> 00:18:22.760
Yeah.

540
00:18:23.020 --> 00:18:25.340
He did all those things while he was Governor of Maryland.

541
00:18:26.120 --> 00:18:30.440
And while he was in the Blair House, his Vice President was doing stuff that wasn't so hot.

542
00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.820
I don't know. Does a person have an opportunity to rehabilitate?

543
00:18:33.840 --> 00:18:35.940
Yes, they do. We're going to have to wait and see.

544
00:18:36.500 --> 00:18:36.500


545
00:18:37.080 --> 00:18:43.160
But that only opens the door for more convicted people to be in office and working for them.

546
00:18:43.260 --> 00:18:43.480
Correct.

547
00:18:43.840 --> 00:18:48.060
And that isn't right. I mean, everybody should obey the law.

548
00:18:48.100 --> 00:18:48.800
Yeah, but we all make mistakes.

549
00:18:48.820 --> 00:18:51.000
If you're caught doing something wrong and you're sent to jail,

550
00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:54.700
they shouldn't be allowed to hold a public office.

551
00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.440
But if you're sent to jail and you do your time...

552
00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:03.040
We thank you for your opinion. When you've done your time, you've done your time.

553
00:19:03.080 --> 00:19:04.820
Just like the Mayor of Washington, D.C.

554
00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:10.880
Many of you knew I was the best candidate, but you didn't have faith that I had recovered fully.

555
00:19:10.900 --> 00:19:11.260
You recovered.

556
00:19:11.260 --> 00:19:12.280
I understand that.

557
00:19:12.900 --> 00:19:12.900


558
00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:17.020
Many of you didn't vote for me because you didn't think I had the courage to cut this budget.

559
00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.280
And I understand that.

560
00:19:18.280 --> 00:19:18.640
Right.

561
00:19:19.180 --> 00:19:23.200
Many of you didn't vote for me because you just didn't think someone who had been to prison should be Mayor.

562
00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:24.140
I understand that.

563
00:19:24.140 --> 00:19:24.640
I understand.

564
00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.420
But now that the people have spoken...

565
00:19:27.420 --> 00:19:30.420
Come on home and help me rebuild Washington together.

566
00:19:31.580 --> 00:19:33.100
Case closed. We understand that.

567
00:19:33.260 --> 00:19:35.360
All right, let's go to Bob on line two. Hello, Bob in the car.

568
00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:36.140
Bob in the car.

569
00:19:37.380 --> 00:19:40.020
Hey, Bob. Bob, turn your radio down.

570
00:19:41.500 --> 00:19:42.940
Hey, Bob, we'll be talking to you, Bob.

571
00:19:43.020 --> 00:19:43.960
Bob, turn your radio down.

572
00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:44.380
Hello, Ed.

573
00:19:44.600 --> 00:19:44.800
Go ahead.

574
00:19:44.800 --> 00:19:45.320
What's up?

575
00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:46.280
Ed?

576
00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:47.000
Yes.

577
00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:50.920
Can you hear me all right? I'm almost in Grand Rapids in the car.

578
00:19:52.100 --> 00:19:52.820
Talk fast.

579
00:19:54.020 --> 00:19:54.700
Go ahead, Bob.

580
00:19:56.220 --> 00:20:03.940
You know, one of the... I've been doing election work since 1958 and I've been through a lot of sign wars.

581
00:20:04.120 --> 00:20:09.700
But the granddaddy of all sign war things that I ever saw back in...

582
00:20:10.300 --> 00:20:11.280
We lost him.

583
00:20:11.300 --> 00:20:12.700
...the incumbent...

584
00:20:13.980 --> 00:20:14.740
We lost him.

585
00:20:14.760 --> 00:20:16.920
Sorry, Bobby. We lost you. I'm sorry, Bobby.

586
00:20:17.060 --> 00:20:20.980
And I hope you'll call us back Monday or Tuesday because we do want to...

587
00:20:20.980 --> 00:20:22.080
...pronounce Pwensky.

588
00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:22.620
Ta-da!

589
00:20:22.620 --> 00:20:26.160
I've seen you, Ed. You look terrific and you know it's true.

590
00:20:26.320 --> 00:20:27.820
What is a Pwensky?

591
00:20:28.120 --> 00:20:28.980
A Pwensky...

592
00:20:28.980 --> 00:20:29.520
Who's next?

593
00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:31.180
Let's go to Wally on 11.

594
00:20:31.420 --> 00:20:33.200
Wally from the northwest side. Hi, Wally.

595
00:20:33.420 --> 00:20:34.580
How you doing? How's it going?

596
00:20:34.740 --> 00:20:35.860
Good. What's happening, Wally?

597
00:20:35.860 --> 00:20:40.400
Well, I have a question about these elections. You know, we're always complaining about the turnout.

598
00:20:40.660 --> 00:20:41.040
Yeah.

599
00:20:41.380 --> 00:20:44.320
On the primaries, why do you have to declare yourself?

600
00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:45.520
That's a good question.

601
00:20:45.740 --> 00:20:47.140
I mean, because people go in...

602
00:20:47.140 --> 00:20:47.400
It's none of their business.

603
00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:51.140
You know, days gone by where a lot depended on...

604
00:20:51.140 --> 00:20:53.120
...and then chaining themselves to gates and all that stuff.

605
00:20:53.420 --> 00:20:54.220
Put it on the ballot.

606
00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:59.200
I don't believe the people that are for it or against it either way.

607
00:20:59.280 --> 00:21:04.180
I'm going to give you the best reason to vote and the rationale to vote and the way to get everybody out.

608
00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:08.080
If you don't vote and exercise your right to vote, you get fined $25. How's that?

609
00:21:08.280 --> 00:21:09.700
That'll work. Hit them where it hurts.

610
00:21:10.700 --> 00:21:13.360
Well, you know what that music means. That's it for us, counselor.

611
00:21:13.900 --> 00:21:14.660
You have a good weekend.

612
00:21:14.660 --> 00:21:18.580
You too. Maybe we should give people lottery tickets if they come to vote that day.

613
00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:22.300
No. Come out and vote. It's your obligation. Thanks, everybody, for listening and calling.

614
00:21:22.360 --> 00:21:24.840
Thanks to Mary. Thanks to Mercedes. Thanks to Barrick.

615
00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:27.020
Thanks to Kurt for news and information.

616
00:21:27.080 --> 00:21:30.700
And thanks to our internationally known executive director, the man who went above and beyond.

617
00:21:31.600 --> 00:21:32.000
Yeah.

618
00:21:33.500 --> 00:21:37.580
Politics in Chicago, well, I only know what it is here. It's a sport.

619
00:21:38.820 --> 00:21:42.640
Everybody's an expert. Everybody knows what's going on, supposedly.

620
00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:45.740
Everybody has an opinion. And it's a continual...

621
00:21:45.740 --> 00:21:47.640
The defendants come out endorsing Mayor Richard Daly.

622
00:21:49.700 --> 00:21:50.920
Doing an interview. Hold on.

623
00:21:52.120 --> 00:21:56.700
That was hard to believe. Because that was not an act they were going to endorse him.

624
00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.400
So what makes Chicago politics different?

625
00:22:00.560 --> 00:22:03.100
Because it's here in this town, and politics is a sport.

626
00:22:03.500 --> 00:22:07.640
Everybody's an expert. Everybody participates. Everybody knows what's going on, supposedly.

627
00:22:08.660 --> 00:22:12.620
And everybody plays the game. And they play it in between elections, during elections,

628
00:22:12.620 --> 00:22:17.280
after elections, before elections. And it's a 365 day a year deal.

629
00:22:19.260 --> 00:22:23.860
And everybody likes the rep of having helped elect presidents.

630
00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:31.460
Ultimately, we're known as a town where Capone and around the world you go to hold a machine,

631
00:22:31.600 --> 00:22:37.760
got up Chicago. Well, now, I guess almost every single vote fraud story in America

632
00:22:37.760 --> 00:22:43.040
supposedly had its start in Chicago, in particular voting from cemeteries.

633
00:22:43.360 --> 00:22:48.920
So I guess although that's a negative thing, the people that are here start to say,

634
00:22:49.120 --> 00:22:53.360
hey, we are something different in politics. And that's ingrained from one generation to the other

635
00:22:53.360 --> 00:22:56.640
that this is different politics here. And people take it personally.

636
00:22:57.800 --> 00:22:59.700
I mean, they get involved and they bleed your nose.

637
00:23:00.500 --> 00:23:03.760
And they rip your signs down and they call your mother a nice name.

638
00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:06.580
Well, why here? I mean, what is it?

639
00:23:12.080 --> 00:23:17.420
And we were different. We had a great, very large steel mill population in this town.

640
00:23:17.560 --> 00:23:20.720
And we had a large shipping business in this town as well.

641
00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:22.980
And we were the railroad transportation center.

642
00:23:24.100 --> 00:23:28.520
And we had a lot of people. And the town was made up by blue collar people and blue collar workers.

643
00:23:28.520 --> 00:23:33.840
And people settled in this town, I guess, the way New York used to be.

644
00:23:34.360 --> 00:23:37.540
We were probably 25 years behind them as far as how these people settled.

645
00:23:37.560 --> 00:23:41.520
But they settled in the enclaves of different nationalities and different religions.

646
00:23:41.560 --> 00:23:44.780
And everybody had their own turf and no one moved. It was an immobile society.

647
00:23:45.500 --> 00:23:50.840
And therefore you had two and three and four generations where everybody knew everybody in the neighborhood.

648
00:23:51.660 --> 00:23:56.060
And politics was part of everyone's life on a daily basis.

649
00:23:56.060 --> 00:23:58.280
And everybody needed a politician.

650
00:24:08.080 --> 00:24:12.960
Why be a politician? Why be an elected official anyplace?

651
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:17.200
Chicago is unique in so far as Los Angeles is bigger than we are.

652
00:24:17.340 --> 00:24:20.660
They have 15 city councilmen. We have 50 aldermen.

653
00:24:21.220 --> 00:24:23.320
I mean, there's just more of us here, it appears.

654
00:24:23.320 --> 00:24:30.140
And I guess the numbers for the whole state shows that the state of Illinois is probably second or third in the whole country as having elected officials.

655
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:33.820
So I guess it's pretty hard not to be elected at one time or another.

656
00:24:35.040 --> 00:24:38.220
It's also famous for sort of being rough and tough, the politics here.

657
00:24:39.700 --> 00:24:44.240
I don't think it's any rougher and tougher than anybody else, except maybe they talk about it more here.

658
00:24:44.760 --> 00:24:50.980
Although people who were elected officials, a couple of them, we had an alderman on the west side, I think his name was Wilson,

659
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:59.160
who committed suicide. He was handcuffed to his chair and had about eight shots in his head.

660
00:24:59.320 --> 00:25:01.480
Ben Lewis was his name, and no one ever found him yet.

661
00:25:01.700 --> 00:25:05.740
There was a state representative, a committee member by the name of Clem Graver, that they never ever found.

662
00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:09.460
I mean, those things happen. They don't happen anymore.

663
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:16.160
But just to get the signs, you got like fistfights, you got, you know, stuff that didn't go on in Minnesota.

664
00:25:18.320 --> 00:25:23.120
What goes on in Minnesota? Are you kidding? You are kidding.

665
00:25:24.740 --> 00:25:29.320
It's not Minnesota. It's Chicago. It's Minnesota. Give me a break.

666
00:25:29.580 --> 00:25:35.200
We're probably closer to New Orleans as far as politics than any place else in the country. Minnesota. Come on.

667
00:25:36.280 --> 00:25:41.220
I don't think we got the line when you were talking about Chicago politics as like a sporting event, so can we just get that?

668
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:41.900
You blew that line?

669
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.660
Yeah. Just the whole introduction of why Chicago politics is there.

670
00:25:44.660 --> 00:25:51.460
In Chicago, the people of Chicago treat politics as a sport. Everybody's a participant, everybody's a player all the time.

671
00:25:51.800 --> 00:25:59.420
Before elections, election day, after elections, and that's what people talk about and that's what they are expert in, whether they are or not.

672
00:25:59.540 --> 00:26:03.760
And everybody's a player. And politicians are like a sports team.

673
00:26:05.040 --> 00:26:10.640
And we had a lot of very interesting individuals. We're an elected office right now.

674
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:16.620
We happen to have a city council that's more plastic than exciting. But that's how it goes.

675
00:26:17.180 --> 00:26:17.880
You like politics?

676
00:26:18.820 --> 00:26:29.300
I liked it for most of my political career, yes. Yeah. You got to like it. It's too hard not to be there if you didn't like it. Okay?

677
00:26:29.580 --> 00:26:29.720
Great.

678
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:31.840
Yeah, talking to that Bordeaux there.

679
00:26:38.860 --> 00:26:43.060
Police are probably our biggest constituency. I get cops stopping me every time. Talk me well.

680
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:46.960
I just thought it was so rude he was sticking to stuff in people's faces.

681
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.780
Yeah, don't put it in front of the women around here. They'll think it's a deal, though.

682
00:26:50.500 --> 00:26:51.060
It gets them.

683
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:54.460
It gets them to say that poor guy that had that sign was going to be shoved in.

684
00:26:57.520 --> 00:27:03.760
You know, we were curious as to, you know, you have this political situation where daily looks like it's going to win pretty easily.

685
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:11.060
And there's a split happening in the city politically. And it's almost as if, you know, you had Harold Washington and he was mayor, looked like he was going to be mayor for life, was mayor for life.

686
00:27:11.740 --> 00:27:19.300
And now the political balance is totally, totally on a different side. I mean, what's going on with African American politicians right now? Are they on the outside looking at?

687
00:27:19.300 --> 00:27:26.460
I think when you had in 87, following the death of Harold, there was a big gaffe in black leadership.

688
00:27:27.060 --> 00:27:30.620
You had the Tim Evans of the world versus the Gene Sawyers of the world.

689
00:27:30.980 --> 00:27:41.540
And a lot of people were in the black community in 87 really empowering themselves behind people like Tim Evans and Dorothy Tillman and various other standouts in the city council.

690
00:27:41.840 --> 00:27:47.520
But once that rift developed, people didn't know which way to go. It was like the Red Sea had been parted.

691
00:27:47.520 --> 00:27:51.280
People, I think, emotionally wanted to go with a Tim Evans per se.

692
00:27:51.740 --> 00:27:58.600
But Evans didn't do enough at that time, in my view, to galvanize the forces to ascend to the mayoral position.

693
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.320
And I think Sawyer just happened to be right place, right time.

694
00:28:01.700 --> 00:28:08.280
So since then, ever since 87, and to me, that's much too long for a rift and a gaffe to remain in the black community.

695
00:28:08.540 --> 00:28:12.660
And I think it's just a matter of someone stepping up, saying, I want it.

696
00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:14.580
Grab that brass ring and go for it.

697
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:18.180
No one, in my view, has been assertive enough to say, I want it that badly.

698
00:28:18.840 --> 00:28:24.980
Roland Burris, in my view, had to be coerced by people like Lou Palmer and Eddie Reid to say, Roland, you're our guy.

699
00:28:25.040 --> 00:28:26.100
We think you should run.

700
00:28:26.600 --> 00:28:29.720
But I don't think he did it in an aggressive or in an assertive manner.

701
00:28:30.780 --> 00:28:32.380
Joe Gardner has certainly done that.

702
00:28:32.500 --> 00:28:34.900
But Joe Gardner, I think, is too much of a nice guy.

703
00:28:35.140 --> 00:28:41.420
And I don't think Joe Gardner has been aggressive or combative enough to galvanize those forces.

704
00:28:41.420 --> 00:28:42.920
Well, I know he was fighting a lot of...