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I really couldn't speak about other parts of the country how politics are because I've

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been engrossed in what you call quote-unquote politics in Chicago for about 20 years.

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Basically, for going back a few years it used to be part of the actual precinct captain,

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neighborhood kind of contact, person-to-person contact between the voter constituent and the

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precinct captain and his workers. In those days the precinct captain had, I would say,

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not the word power, but had a lot of ways where he could help the constituents. If they had a

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personal problem, that man was there at two in the morning to help you, or if your son or daughter

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got in trouble he would be there knocking on doors for you. It's changed in the last 10 or 15 years,

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well even less than that, less than 10 years. It's a little more impersonal. A lot of the people who

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were involved in precinct captain politics are not there anymore. Really the diehards are left,

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the ones who really care about the community are still there doing their job. But as far as how it

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is in other parts of the country, I really don't know how they do politics, but in essence in

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Chicago it's the way we do it is person-to-person contact with the public.

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What's the most important thing about getting somebody's vote? I mean you've been in politics for a long time.

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What's the most important thing you get to get a vote?

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Well, the most important thing is to try to convince the person you're dealing with, you know, why you would like to have them vote your way.

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Some people, let's face it, let's be very frank about it, some people vote on a person's looks.

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They might not know the candidate. They might get a pamphlet that day and they like what it says and they're going to vote on them.

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The precinct captain and workers, what they do is go around and try to explain to you why that particular candidate is good for your area.

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That's what it boils down to. What can that candidate do for your area?

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So you were telling me that sometimes it's not even the candidate, but...

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We get into it. I mean we really get into our elections here. I mean it's... and we should.

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The whole idea is to sort of get the public involved in politics. It's part of their life in this country.

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But people who take it for granted and don't even bother coming out or voting, I mean they're the ones who are the biggest complainers.

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They'll call you and say, well this is no good or you're not giving services.

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But in essence if they don't come out to vote, I feel they really don't have a voice in complaining.

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Do you think people in Chicago are interested in politics?

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I would say they are. I mean judging from when our men go around and I've done it myself door to door,

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I mean if you present yourself properly, people, they have their ears open. They want to listen to you.

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They want to discuss the issues. And if they have a complaint, believe me, you are the sounding board.

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You're the first person to say that represents that particular candidate and they're going to unload on you.

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And we're used to it. That's part of the game of being involved in politics.

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Now remember last week we were talking to you and you were talking about how sometimes the candidate is not even important.

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It's the person that asks and you can almost sell almost any candidate to pay them the person's relationship.

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So can you look at me and just tell me essentially that who's the most important person?

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Well in essence, like I say, it's not so much the candidate.

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I mean you can have a person who's not really a high profile candidate or a person who's not well known name recognition wise,

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but yet still a good candidate. That's where the contact that the precinct captain or workers have or volunteers have in the precincts

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to go around and let them know specifically John Doe is a very, very good candidate and this is the reason why.

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That personal contact is a thing that really a lot of times makes a difference in a political contest.

