WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.340 --> 00:00:07.000 Give us your name. 2 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:08.900 Now? 3 00:00:09.600 --> 00:00:10.780 Jose Guerrero. 4 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:11.340 Date? 5 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:15.700 October 29, 1988. 6 00:00:15.900 --> 00:00:19.000 And then say this is, what's the name of this mural? 7 00:00:19.360 --> 00:00:21.380 Smash Plan 21. 8 00:00:22.220 --> 00:00:25.480 So this is real one for Smash Plan 21. 9 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:26.200 Audio tape. 10 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:27.540 Thanks. 11 00:00:27.540 --> 00:00:33.560 Well, I think if you just say... 12 00:00:34.680 --> 00:00:36.520 Just say Jose, that's all. 13 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:37.240 Roll one... 14 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:40.220 Well, say... 15 00:00:40.220 --> 00:00:42.320 Say, yeah, give the date. 16 00:00:42.580 --> 00:00:43.780 Say it's 1029. 17 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:47.420 Say Jose describing Plan 21. 18 00:00:48.340 --> 00:00:49.360 Smash Plan 21. 19 00:00:49.360 --> 00:00:49.740 Roll one. 20 00:00:50.820 --> 00:00:51.860 Say when. 21 00:00:53.340 --> 00:00:53.340 22 00:01:04.060 --> 00:01:05.320 Hello, sister. 23 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:07.020 Okay. 24 00:01:07.780 --> 00:01:08.340 Are you rolling? 25 00:01:09.380 --> 00:01:10.840 Make me... 26 00:01:11.360 --> 00:01:12.300 Okay, so later. 27 00:01:12.740 --> 00:01:14.080 10, this is 1029. 28 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:17.940 This is Jose Guerrero talking about Smash Plan 21. 29 00:01:17.940 --> 00:01:19.660 This is roll one. 30 00:01:21.800 --> 00:01:22.020 Okay. 31 00:01:22.780 --> 00:01:26.900 So can you tell me a little bit about this mural? 32 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:30.360 Can you describe the composition a little bit? 33 00:01:30.820 --> 00:01:31.640 The composition? 34 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:34.760 Like what are these babies in here? 35 00:01:34.800 --> 00:01:35.440 What's this? 36 00:01:35.860 --> 00:01:40.940 Well, see, the babies actually come less because that's... 37 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:45.240 This is showing like the people pushing the wheel this way. 38 00:01:46.600 --> 00:01:48.840 And the city hall pushing this way, see? 39 00:01:49.240 --> 00:01:51.020 How did you decide to paint this mural? 40 00:01:52.140 --> 00:01:55.240 Because during that time they were talking about... 41 00:01:56.220 --> 00:01:57.720 They had a suit against the plan, you know. 42 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.660 A lot of people had a suit against it. 43 00:02:01.380 --> 00:02:05.120 And the plan was to dislocate people from the area, 44 00:02:06.580 --> 00:02:07.740 as they're doing now, 45 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:11.160 and replace them with upper middle class people. 46 00:02:11.160 --> 00:02:16.420 So that's where we got the idea to do the Smash Plan 21. 47 00:02:16.420 --> 00:02:19.600 So how did the... how did the... how did the images in here... 48 00:02:19.600 --> 00:02:20.540 What's your message? 49 00:02:21.720 --> 00:02:24.700 Well, the message is that the people, not all of them, 50 00:02:24.740 --> 00:02:29.600 but a large group of people are still fighting to keep their neighborhoods, see? 51 00:02:30.700 --> 00:02:35.940 And of course the money people fighting to renovate the area. 52 00:02:35.940 --> 00:02:42.880 And also, you know, dislocate the people that live here. 53 00:02:43.040 --> 00:02:47.040 Like happened over at Truman College where they... at Uptown, 54 00:02:47.820 --> 00:02:53.240 they built a college and dislocated about 1200 units of housing for the poor. 55 00:02:54.020 --> 00:02:55.180 And they're doing that here too, see? 56 00:02:55.200 --> 00:02:57.320 So whatever happened with Plan 21? 57 00:02:59.060 --> 00:03:02.840 It's... it's worse, I know. It's still in effect and people are moving. 58 00:03:03.640 --> 00:03:07.300 See, the reason people came to this area, like in the 50s, 59 00:03:07.780 --> 00:03:12.860 they came from the... from the South, Appalachia, and blacks, Hispanics, 60 00:03:13.020 --> 00:03:14.100 and people from Puerto Rico. 61 00:03:14.580 --> 00:03:16.460 This was the area that they settled in, see? 62 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:19.760 Let's stop here for a moment, because the sun has changed. 63 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.440 Also, I want to make sure... let's not get too general about Plan 21, 64 00:03:23.640 --> 00:03:26.340 because that... you know, we can do that once longer. 65 00:03:26.340 --> 00:03:27.460 Okay, so we need to talk about... 66 00:03:27.460 --> 00:03:30.840 We really need to talk about the images and had you really... 67 00:03:32.020 --> 00:03:34.580 Somebody wandered off. They have... they look at this and they go, 68 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:36.840 I have not the faintest idea what any of this... 69 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:46.400 Okay. 70 00:03:46.660 --> 00:03:48.160 Yeah, so can you tell me what this is about? 71 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:50.080 Well, see, the image is actually... 72 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:53.600 it shows the people from the neighborhood, working class people, 73 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:58.100 struggling against the people from City Hall, you know, like the realtors, 74 00:03:58.600 --> 00:03:59.940 and the money people. 75 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:06.360 And of course, that up there, that tarp over there, 76 00:04:06.660 --> 00:04:08.660 we got that from drawing that one up there, see? 77 00:04:10.720 --> 00:04:14.000 We drew it and then painted it there. 78 00:04:14.440 --> 00:04:17.420 It symbolizes the plan, you know, instead of drawing a lot of plans, 79 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:18.940 we do the... that is a symbol. 80 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:23.940 The people back in the plan, you know, like the politicians, 81 00:04:25.620 --> 00:04:30.940 the police, the clergy, not all the clergy, you know, but some of them. 82 00:04:31.460 --> 00:04:37.380 And then of course, the wheel, it indicates like something spinning. 83 00:04:38.620 --> 00:04:42.720 In other words, it symbolizes also like machinery or working class, 84 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:46.380 a working class symbol, I would say. 85 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:48.940 And then the people up there on that side, 86 00:04:50.740 --> 00:04:53.660 pushing, you know, like a struggle. 87 00:04:55.180 --> 00:04:57.940 And hopefully, like the other guy said, the other artist that worked with me, 88 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:06.820 says that from that struggle, that maybe new people, you know, come out of this, you know. 89 00:05:08.180 --> 00:05:12.320 And then it shows a little girl there planting a tree, 90 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:14.940 because they had mentioned they were going to plant trees here, 91 00:05:16.180 --> 00:05:17.260 but that was ten years ago. 92 00:05:18.320 --> 00:05:21.760 And I guess they did plant some, you know, but she had one there. 93 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:24.780 At that time, there weren't any sidewalks here. 94 00:05:24.780 --> 00:05:27.820 There was just this one here and a bunch of parking meters. 95 00:05:29.400 --> 00:05:34.360 And she's about to plant a tree, and then there's people coming out of school, you know, 96 00:05:35.200 --> 00:05:41.160 because education is part of, you know, struggling against whatever, you know, 97 00:05:41.260 --> 00:05:43.140 whatever the thing is that they're fighting. 98 00:05:47.260 --> 00:05:51.540 Well, the star, you know, they got their politics, 99 00:05:52.180 --> 00:05:55.400 and the people here got theirs, you know, like a bright shining star. 100 00:05:57.380 --> 00:06:03.000 And then they got a banner that says, Save Our Homes. 101 00:06:04.200 --> 00:06:07.060 In other words, not to be dislocated, but they want to stay here. 102 00:06:17.260 --> 00:06:17.540 You know? 103 00:06:22.100 --> 00:06:23.380 Take three. 104 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.040 Did you hear that snap on his mic? 105 00:06:28.500 --> 00:06:30.000 Better do it again. 106 00:06:30.880 --> 00:06:33.260 Okay. Take three. 107 00:06:36.260 --> 00:06:39.480 Okay, so we were talking about the big heads, I think? 108 00:06:40.020 --> 00:06:41.980 Talk about the big heads a little bit? 109 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:43.000 The description? 110 00:06:44.900 --> 00:06:44.900 111 00:06:44.900 --> 00:06:54.240 Well, like I said, the description is that, 112 00:06:54.240 --> 00:07:00.080 the description is that that wheel, and this was some of the guys that sponsored the group, 113 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:01.900 not them, you know, but some of the, 114 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.000 some of the, what do you call them? 115 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:07.420 Ancestors, whatever. 116 00:07:08.700 --> 00:07:14.540 Anyway, the wheel indicates, you know, like a symbol of working class people, see? 117 00:07:14.900 --> 00:07:18.580 And the people over here are the people of the neighborhood. 118 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:24.020 Of course, they're more advanced because they're the ones that are doing the fighting back. 119 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:28.660 And they're pushing the wheel, and these people over here are pushing it back, see? 120 00:07:29.900 --> 00:07:33.840 Those are the people, the realtors, or the money people. 121 00:07:35.740 --> 00:07:40.440 And like I said, that top over there represents like Plan 21. 122 00:07:45.880 --> 00:07:51.400 Well, see, the other guy was two guys working, me and this other man, and other people helping, of course. 123 00:07:51.980 --> 00:07:54.640 I was doing mostly the bottom part, and he was doing the heads. 124 00:07:56.020 --> 00:08:05.800 And he says that the head symbolizes use rising up from the, from what's going on now, you know, to a better living conditions. 125 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:07.900 That's the way he put it. 126 00:08:09.020 --> 00:08:10.900 But other people said, you know, 127 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:12.480 that, 128 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:21.780 that they thought that it represented, you know, girls having babies. 129 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:25.840 What about this writing down here? 130 00:08:26.760 --> 00:08:31.720 Well, I asked him this morning the same thing, but I already knew, but I told him that somebody had asked about it. 131 00:08:31.980 --> 00:08:37.100 And he said it leads to nowhere. He just put it there so people would ask or get close to the mural, 132 00:08:37.820 --> 00:08:42.940 you know, to bring them from across the street and start trying to figure it out. 133 00:08:48.520 --> 00:08:54.160 Well, like I said, we didn't prepare it that well, you know, as we do now. We do a better job on them now. 134 00:08:55.140 --> 00:09:00.340 But basically we just put some base paint. We didn't bother too much to scrape it or anything, you know. 135 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:05.460 We clean it off and then put the base paint on it, started drawing on it. 136 00:09:07.100 --> 00:09:08.920 What part came out? 137 00:09:10.140 --> 00:09:13.440 Well, first we did like this, like the circle. 138 00:09:14.300 --> 00:09:21.620 And then we started putting the figures on the, you know, the figures on the wall there, on both sides. 139 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.740 And then we started doing the dots. 140 00:09:26.940 --> 00:09:31.760 And he started doing the, you know, the figure of the girls there. 141 00:09:34.700 --> 00:09:35.700 So let's see. 142 00:09:37.800 --> 00:09:41.400 What are some of these, like, what's that swastika doing down there? 143 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:50.140 Well, that's due to the fact that a lot of the planners, since they're trying to separate people, 144 00:09:50.260 --> 00:09:54.360 we figure that they were those type of people, you know, that they were racist. 145 00:09:55.540 --> 00:10:00.520 And that's how we use, well, I use a swastika a lot of times, you know, to represent racism. 146 00:10:01.020 --> 00:10:03.440 And then who's this figure here with all the muscles? 147 00:10:05.880 --> 00:10:14.320 That, the other guy, Martinez, Oscar Martinez, he works in anatomy, you know. 148 00:10:14.900 --> 00:10:18.740 So he started doing the, he did that one with the muscles, you know. 149 00:10:18.860 --> 00:10:20.440 He likes going into stuff like that. 150 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:24.820 And where did you get the idea for these different characters? 151 00:10:24.820 --> 00:10:26.600 What about the businessmen? 152 00:10:27.680 --> 00:10:34.780 Well, they represent the different people that they associate with each other, you know. 153 00:10:34.820 --> 00:10:41.600 For instance, like the politicians or the realtors or the people who own the buildings. 154 00:10:43.580 --> 00:10:51.820 And then, of course, the, you know, people from, that have a lot of money, they invest, you know, for the... 155 00:10:52.340 --> 00:10:53.160 The man with the woman? 156 00:10:54.820 --> 00:10:58.400 The woman, she represents like some high society woman, yeah. 157 00:10:59.920 --> 00:11:11.260 And then, of course, the police, the companies on the back that tend to gain from taking over the area, 158 00:11:11.500 --> 00:11:16.660 standard all commonwealth and the telephone companies and whatever, you know. 159 00:11:17.300 --> 00:11:22.000 I noticed you have the Sears tower and the J&M. Why did you put those in there? 160 00:11:22.580 --> 00:11:25.660 Well, like I said, it represents, you know, people from downtown. 161 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:28.660 It represents people that got money, you know. 162 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:34.920 Because also the people that, actually, the middle class people is the one that they want to bring back to this area. 163 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:45.600 And the people from here are supposed to move down to, further down, you know, into already crowded areas over there now, Sears and Berwyn. 164 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:47.600 Mm-hmm. 165 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:51.920 That's okay. 166 00:11:52.380 --> 00:11:54.480 I can't think of any more questions. 167 00:12:00.760 --> 00:12:03.120 We're getting to the rail. 168 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:05.780 Okay, go ahead and sleep. 169 00:12:06.520 --> 00:12:10.060 Olga, November 13th, scene one, take one. 170 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:11.000 Yeah. 171 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:17.600 Okay. 172 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:23.000 Okay. 173 00:12:30.300 --> 00:12:31.700 Okay. 174 00:12:38.800 --> 00:12:42.180 Where do you want to go? 175 00:12:45.680 --> 00:12:52.660 To the aquarium. We said we're going out to see some things around the neighborhood, didn't you? 176 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:56.600 Okay, you want me to move the car? 177 00:12:57.640 --> 00:12:58.940 That's where I want to go. 178 00:12:59.900 --> 00:13:00.180 Okay. 179 00:13:01.580 --> 00:13:02.140 Okay. 180 00:13:04.660 --> 00:13:06.760 Open up the door enough that you can see Julie. 181 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:08.960 Hey, picture. 182 00:13:13.400 --> 00:13:13.920 Okay. 183 00:13:13.920 --> 00:13:15.500 Okay, slate. Be sure to say take two. 184 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.440 Okay. Olga, November 13th, take two. 185 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:40.920 Let's try to go to Gabriela. 186 00:13:48.800 --> 00:13:49.040 Okay. 187 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:51.960 Okay. 188 00:13:52.980 --> 00:13:52.980 189 00:13:54.100 --> 00:13:55.700 Where do you want to go? 190 00:13:58.420 --> 00:14:02.760 No, aquarium. I told you I was going to take you around to the neighborhood and show you there. 191 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:05.240 192 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.940 So, we're going to go in this car. 193 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:09.720 Okay. 194 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:36.620 Olga, November 13th, scene two, take one. 195 00:14:42.040 --> 00:14:42.720 Okay. 196 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:43.380 There's bats. 197 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:44.860 There's a little one. 198 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:48.400 Are they the same way? 199 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:49.960 Okay, let's go. 200 00:14:50.620 --> 00:14:54.820 Okay. I want to show you these. 201 00:15:06.140 --> 00:15:07.900 Hi, can you hear me? 202 00:15:07.900 --> 00:15:08.880 Or not? 203 00:15:09.420 --> 00:15:09.900 Because there aren't. 204 00:15:11.100 --> 00:15:11.920 Wait, talk again. 205 00:15:12.100 --> 00:15:12.560 Alright, well. 206 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:14.920 I think I've got you, yeah. 207 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:15.840 I can't think. 208 00:15:16.340 --> 00:15:19.980 There are a lot of cars out here, but it's really lovely. The weather's really very nice. 209 00:15:20.860 --> 00:15:24.000 We're so lucky, in fact, that it's so warm today, but it's so pleasant. 210 00:15:24.340 --> 00:15:25.620 It's expected to be sunny all afternoon. 211 00:15:25.640 --> 00:15:29.440 Get your audio slate first, and then do the clap for the very last thing. 212 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:29.880 Okay. 213 00:15:30.580 --> 00:15:31.420 Okay, roll audio. 214 00:15:31.860 --> 00:15:32.620 We're rolling. 215 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:35.700 Okay, slate. 216 00:15:35.700 --> 00:15:39.700 Scene two, take two, Olga Nuno, November 13th. 217 00:15:43.180 --> 00:15:44.520 Okay, thank you. 218 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:24.860 Thank you. 219 00:16:58.280 --> 00:16:59.680 Okay. 220 00:16:59.680 --> 00:17:01.840 Very good. 221 00:17:03.520 --> 00:17:05.980 He's an awesome Indian warrior. 222 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:10.840 And see that eagle over there? 223 00:17:12.620 --> 00:17:13.260 That eagle? 224 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:14.580 What? 225 00:17:15.080 --> 00:17:18.680 That one that kind of has like little, over there. 226 00:17:20.320 --> 00:17:22.980 Right by the man with the green shirt. 227 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:24.400 Green shirt. 228 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:25.180 Yeah. 229 00:17:25.180 --> 00:17:29.240 Well, that's the symbol of Farmers' Union. 230 00:17:29.280 --> 00:17:30.180 And it's red and it's black, the eagle. 231 00:17:31.360 --> 00:17:32.180 Uh-huh. 232 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:34.080 233 00:17:37.500 --> 00:17:38.700 And, what's the word? 234 00:17:38.700 --> 00:17:41.080 What is that? 235 00:17:42.180 --> 00:17:42.660 Hmm? 236 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:46.420 Those are houses. 237 00:17:47.420 --> 00:17:53.440 Because one of the things that people feel that we need is housing for people so they 238 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:55.280 can live and not be crowded. 239 00:18:00.760 --> 00:18:01.400 And... 240 00:18:03.100 --> 00:18:04.420 What does it say? 241 00:18:04.420 --> 00:18:06.420 It's in Spanish, but read it. 242 00:18:08.020 --> 00:18:08.900 It says what? 243 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:10.300 In English? 244 00:18:11.220 --> 00:18:12.060 No, the top. 245 00:18:14.060 --> 00:18:14.700 Educacion. 246 00:18:14.700 --> 00:18:17.700 Educacion para los... 247 00:18:19.280 --> 00:18:21.020 You're making it up. 248 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:28.180 Educacion bilingue y bicultural. 249 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:29.740 No. 250 00:18:32.980 --> 00:18:35.180 Un derecho a un privilegio. 251 00:18:35.560 --> 00:18:36.700 That's what it says. 252 00:18:39.820 --> 00:18:43.380 She still makes up words when I ask her to read. 253 00:18:44.700 --> 00:18:47.720 She's real smart because we're teaching her to read. 254 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:50.040 I'm moving it. 255 00:18:50.620 --> 00:18:51.500 What do you think it means? 256 00:18:52.260 --> 00:18:53.480 Notice how it's delayed now. 257 00:18:53.800 --> 00:18:54.580 That's the playback. 258 00:18:54.800 --> 00:18:55.800 So just do that every now and then. 259 00:18:56.360 --> 00:18:56.920 No. 260 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:00.120 What do two hands grasp together mean? 261 00:19:02.060 --> 00:19:02.580 Friends. 262 00:19:02.580 --> 00:19:03.400 You got it. 263 00:19:03.460 --> 00:19:04.100 You got it. 264 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.240 That's what it means. 265 00:19:07.520 --> 00:19:09.280 It also means being together. 266 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:11.420 I think it's... 267 00:19:11.420 --> 00:19:11.640 Ready? 268 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:13.660 I want to... 269 00:19:13.660 --> 00:19:14.840 Olga. 270 00:19:16.080 --> 00:19:19.520 Olga, November 13th, scene 3, take 2. 271 00:19:20.280 --> 00:19:20.920 Okay, this time. 272 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:22.500 Action, yeah. 273 00:19:22.940 --> 00:19:23.440 Okay, Olga. 274 00:19:24.980 --> 00:19:25.440 Okay. 275 00:19:27.500 --> 00:19:28.100 Well... 276 00:19:28.100 --> 00:19:29.280 I don't want to go there. 277 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:31.800 What did you say this meant? 278 00:19:32.840 --> 00:19:33.280 Friends. 279 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.220 Yeah, and the two hands together with the map of the Americas. 280 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:38.460 That's what it meant. 281 00:19:38.460 --> 00:19:42.000 And this is one of the biggest heroes of the Americas. 282 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:44.660 He was the first... 283 00:19:47.280 --> 00:19:48.440 The first... 284 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:49.080 President. 285 00:19:49.560 --> 00:19:50.400 You get it. 286 00:19:50.420 --> 00:19:50.900 You get it. 287 00:19:50.900 --> 00:19:54.360 The first president of Mexico that was an Indian, 288 00:19:55.080 --> 00:19:59.780 as opposed to one of the big sheds of the Americans. 289 00:20:00.500 --> 00:20:03.360 He led a revolution, too. 290 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:05.440 Because in the movie I saw... 291 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:06.940 You saw the movie with him? 292 00:20:07.180 --> 00:20:07.620 No. 293 00:20:07.620 --> 00:20:10.620 But I remember a young man that... 294 00:20:11.340 --> 00:20:15.080 He got the flag and he rolled down with the flag. 295 00:20:16.280 --> 00:20:16.340 Yeah. 296 00:20:16.760 --> 00:20:18.400 This is another big hero. 297 00:20:19.220 --> 00:20:21.060 And see how big the face is? 298 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:22.320 It's part of it. 299 00:20:22.420 --> 00:20:24.600 This is so people know that they were important. 300 00:20:24.700 --> 00:20:27.080 So they paint him very big. 301 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:31.860 And this one especially, like the big hands breaking the chains. 302 00:20:33.980 --> 00:20:38.200 That meant to us that we would no longer be oppressed. 303 00:20:39.080 --> 00:20:40.800 That's a big word, right? 304 00:20:41.100 --> 00:20:42.140 You know what that means? 305 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:43.200 306 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:47.300 Well, that people felt like they were in chains and they couldn't move. 307 00:20:47.780 --> 00:20:51.200 They couldn't go anywhere and they couldn't speak their mind. 308 00:20:52.300 --> 00:20:54.880 So that represents breaking the chains. 309 00:20:55.140 --> 00:20:56.420 That's what it represents. 310 00:20:56.640 --> 00:20:58.860 That you were free again. 311 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:02.240 And like the fire, too. 312 00:21:02.820 --> 00:21:10.480 That's another symbol of strength and that we were able to move on. 313 00:21:11.100 --> 00:21:12.320 What does this mean? 314 00:21:12.560 --> 00:21:13.040 The eagle. 315 00:21:13.260 --> 00:21:14.120 You've seen the eagle? 316 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:15.000 Yeah. 317 00:21:15.660 --> 00:21:17.260 You've seen it in the flag, haven't you? 318 00:21:17.560 --> 00:21:17.900 Yeah. 319 00:21:18.060 --> 00:21:19.900 But what does this mean? 320 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:21.620 That man with the tiger. 321 00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:23.320 The man with the tiger. 322 00:21:23.600 --> 00:21:28.900 He's a warrior from the... 323 00:21:28.900 --> 00:21:31.200 It would either be Aztec. 324 00:21:32.320 --> 00:21:38.120 And they would put on, before they went to fight, they would put on their favorite... 325 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:39.560 Suits. 326 00:21:39.800 --> 00:21:40.060 Suits. 327 00:21:40.060 --> 00:21:40.680 How do you do that one? 328 00:21:41.100 --> 00:21:42.960 And they try to... 329 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:44.160 Scare the other people. 330 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:44.800 Yeah. 331 00:21:45.180 --> 00:21:46.680 That's what it was for. 332 00:21:46.940 --> 00:21:48.900 That was their... 333 00:21:49.620 --> 00:21:52.700 By doing this, they would look fierce and strong. 334 00:21:53.460 --> 00:21:54.580 More scary. 335 00:21:54.860 --> 00:21:55.660 More scary. 336 00:21:55.740 --> 00:21:56.640 That's right. 337 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:01.080 This is the eagle that's in the Mexican flag. 338 00:22:01.460 --> 00:22:02.920 And you see it in other flags. 339 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:04.780 And also, that's a symbol of strength. 340 00:22:05.080 --> 00:22:07.080 And sometimes they're crowned. 341 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:09.900 Sometimes they have a crown, yes. 342 00:22:10.860 --> 00:22:12.160 Depending what it is. 343 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:17.000 And that's another warrior behind you. 344 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:21.640 Behind that is the... 345 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:28.100 Also an Indian warrior. 346 00:22:31.060 --> 00:22:34.600 And they all look brown, because that's what we look like, right? 347 00:22:36.820 --> 00:22:37.460 Looks great. 348 00:22:37.740 --> 00:22:38.460 Okay, good. 349 00:22:40.820 --> 00:22:41.400 We're done?