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And you confront them.

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And then I'll give you a second.

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Okay, what do you want, right in front of her face?

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Yeah.

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Just so you don't take her nose off.

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You can't mar or stop.

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Okay.

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Okay, go ahead.

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Sandra describes Mural October 26, 89, take one.

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Sandra, could you tell me a little bit about how this mural inspired your own one?

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I would have to say mostly because of the style of it.

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I say the strokes.

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The strokes are very, I don't know what the word is, they're just hard.

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They're harsh, harsh strokes with a lot of color, and that's exactly what influences me a lot.

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Also, the fact that they're against drugs or the fact of what they're trying to say.

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And it's really important what they're trying to say.

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That's what a mural, that's what my work is like, you could say.

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That's what my murals are like.

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That's what my artwork is like.

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I try to say something with my work, and this mural here says a lot.

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I think that's very important.

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Cut for a moment.

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Okay, cut for a moment.

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I couldn't find the word.

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What was that?

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Are you rolling?

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You rolling?

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Sandra describes Mural October 26, 89, take two.

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Sandra, can you tell me about this mural and how it inspires you?

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Well, this mural inspires me because, for one, it's by Hector Duarte,

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and I really admire Hector Duarte's work.

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And most of his work has to do with the message that he has behind it.

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The message behind this mural has to do with drugs, and I find that very intense.

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The fact that my murals and my paintings have to do with this kind of message,

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and the fact that my murals are mostly about I'm trying to direct it to teenagers,

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I think this mural is really the one that inspires me the most,

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more than any mural that I've seen.

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Cut, good.

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Is that fine?

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Is that true?

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Sandra describes Mural October 26, 89, take three.

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This mural really inspires me because of the fact that there was,

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it has a message having to do with drugs, and my work is very similar to that.

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The needle, it has a needle, and you can see the body just laying down

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as if it were, as if he were dying or something,

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and I think that that has a lot to do with my work.

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I would say when I first saw it, it had a great impact on me,

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and right away I said to myself, well, I think I'm going to try to portray some type of message

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to the teenagers of my age, and it just had to be the mural that inspired me the most that I've ever seen.

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All right.

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That'll do.

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Stay right there.

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Very nice.

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That was very good.

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Practice makes perfect, huh?

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Practice makes perfect.

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Yeah.

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I think a couple more times I would have had it.

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You going?

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Okay.

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Sandra describes Mural October 26, 89, take four.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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Let me get ready.

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You ready?

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Turn back around.

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Okay.

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Okay, go ahead.

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This mural really inspires me because of the message that it portrays.

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I'd have to say that when I first saw this mural, it had a great impact on me.

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The fact that it had the needles and the fact that there was a body laying down as if it were dead,

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and it's really important because most of my friends, the atmosphere that I was brought up in,

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it had a lot of death.

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It had a lot of drugs.

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I'd say when I first saw this mural, I said my work was going to be like this.

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I had to portray some type of message.

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I had to help or I had to say something to the teenagers that were my friends.

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So I say that this had to be the favorite mural that I had, and this really inspired me a lot.

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Sandra describes Mural October 26, 89, take five.

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This mural really inspires me because of the message that it has across,

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having to do with the needle, having to do with death.

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And I say that it has a lot to do with the type of work that I have now

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because my work really has to do with the message trying to put across to the teenagers.

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Is that quick enough?

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I didn't say enough.

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That was a great length.

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If you could do...

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I can do that, but stick more in there.

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Don't worry about trying to talk real fast.

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Yeah, just...

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You didn't like it?

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I didn't like it either.

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Okay, well talk a little slower, give a feeling.

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Keep it short, but I know it's a lot to ask.

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Yeah, go ahead and roll.

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Oh, it's okay.

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Sandra describes Mural October 26, 89, take six.

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This mural really inspires me because of the message that it has

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and the message having to do with the drugs, which is really powerful

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because most of my work that I would do had to do with drugs

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or having to do with trying to tell the teenagers not to do this, not to do that.

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And it's really important to me.

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We're just going to keep going soon.

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Okay, can you tell us a little bit about the mural, what you see in it?

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Well, first of all, I see...

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I see a man who has taken drugs or a person who has taken drugs,

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and that's what the needle's about, and he's laying down as if he's dying.

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But if you look at the far side by the feet, it looks realistic, and it's a man.

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Suddenly he starts deteriorating and his stomach starts deteriorating.

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You can see the insides, and towards the top part you can see the rib,

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the rib cage of the skeleton.

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As you look at the face, it's trying to turn into a skeleton,

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although the artist never finished it.

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It starts to turn into a skull, so you can see how he's lying down

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and he starts to die, and you can see that part, which is really important.

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Are there things about it that inspired your technique?

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I'd have to say just the whole, the way he did it completely, the entire technique.

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The colors, just the strokes are really hard and vicious,

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and it's just, when I look at it, I get this strong feeling inside of me.

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It just gives me a feeling, and I just feel like if I want to paint like this,

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and most of my work started turning out to be this type of stroke

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and this type of color all the time.

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Can you point out some details that you think are interesting on the mural?

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Yeah, I would say the face especially. I like that part a lot.

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And I would say, too, the way, if you look at the mural from a certain angle,

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it looks like he's lying down, but when you go to the other side of the mural,

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it looks as if his feet were really huge, and then you could see him

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and he just goes off in the distance, which is really nice.

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And I also like the inside of the stomach, the rib cage. It's wonderful.

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The way he plays with the colors, the way he plays with imagery is great.

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He takes advantage of the length of the wall.

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He just takes advantage of it and shows us what he can do with it

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and also puts a message across to us.

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How did you ever find this mural in the first place?

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I was wandering around, actually. I was just walking around

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and I was looking at murals that day.

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I had spoken to the artist who did this,

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and he told me that he had a mural around here.

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So I walked around and I didn't know this was his.

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I saw this, it inspired me, it was incredible.

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And suddenly when I spoke to him, I told him about this mural,

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and it ended up being his, because I didn't know exactly where it was at.

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I just stumbled across it one day.

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How do you think it would affect young people going by when they see this?

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What is it that they would do for it?

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Well, normally when you look at a mural, you don't think that that's what it's for.

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You don't think that it's to show a person what you feel,

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your inner self, or to make a statement or something like that.

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But if a person walks by here, they immediately see him lying down.

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They see the needle and they see the connection between it,

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the needle, the skull, and the connections. It's just there.

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So when I walked by, I'd say my friends would walk by and they'd say something about it too.

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How do you think it expresses the feelings of someone who maybe is taken for us?

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The energy inside of it.

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It looks as if he's suffering,

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as if something was going on inside his body he couldn't control.

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Everything was out of control.

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It's basically what you see.

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And even the background, you can't look at it all. You have to look at the background too.

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And the background is pretty strong.

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It just has lines, shapes going everywhere and it's pretty strong.

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Why do you think a muralist would choose to paint it?

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I wanted to actually say something.

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I thought maybe you were fishing for questions a little bit.

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Oh, okay.

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Because you don't have to.

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Okay, you think that's enough?

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Well, yeah, because I can just shoot. I need to shoot the mural.

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I remember when I spoke to him, he said something about the garbage being around.

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He said something about there was a lot of garbage and then having to do with the figure was there

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and then there was garbage everywhere.

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But I don't know if, I don't think he chose this place.

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I think it just turned out to be good.

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Well, then we won't bother asking that.

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Okay, I just want you to, we're just getting ambience.

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So you're the microphone.

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Are you rolling?

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Okay, this is ambience for Sandra for interview on 102689 in front of Drug Mural.

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Ambience starts now.

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Okay.

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End of ambience.

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Do you know we need some ambience without the saw?

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Yeah, I think we can get it.

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Okay, that was ambience with saw.

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So this is now ambience without saw, starting now.

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End of ambience.