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This mural really inspires me because of the message that it has across, having to

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do with the needle, having to do with death, and I say that it has a lot to do with the

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type of work that I have now, because my work really has to do with the message trying

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to put across to the teenagers.

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Sandra describes the mural, October 26, 1989, take six.

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This mural really inspires me because of the message that it has, and the message having

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to do with the drugs, which is really powerful, because most of my work that I would do had

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to do with drugs or having to do with trying to tell the teenagers not to do this, not

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to do that, and it's really important to me.

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Well, first of all, I see a man who has taken drugs or a person who has taken drugs, and

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that's what the needle is about, and he's laying down as if he's dying.

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But if you look at the far side by the feet, it looks realistic, and it's a man, and suddenly

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he starts deteriorating, and his stomach starts deteriorating.

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You can see the insides, and towards the top part you can see the rib cage of the skeleton.

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As you look at the face, it's trying to turn into a skeleton, although the artist never

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finished it.

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It starts to turn into a skull, so you can see how he's lying down and he starts to die,

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and you can see that part, which is really important.

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Are there things about it that inspired your technique?

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I'd have to say just the way he did it completely, the entire technique.

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The colors, the strokes are really hard and vicious, and when I look at it, I get this

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strong feeling inside of me.

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It just gives me a feeling, and I just feel like if I want to paint like this, most of

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my work started turning out to be this type of stroke and this type of color all the time.

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Can you put out some details that you think are interesting on the mural?

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I would say the face especially.

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I like that part a lot.

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I would say too, the way if you look at the mural from a certain angle, it looks like

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if he's lying down, but when you go to the other side of the mural, it looks as if his

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feet were really huge, and then you could see him and he just goes off in the distance,

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which is really nice.

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I also like the inside of the stomach, the rib cage.

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It's wonderful.

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The way he plays with the colors, the way he plays with imagery is great.

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He takes advantage of the length of the wall.

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He just takes advantage of it and shows us what he can do with it and also puts a message

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across to us.

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How did you ever find this mural in person?

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I was wandering around, actually.

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I was just walking around, and I was looking at murals that day.

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I had spoken to the artist who did this, and he told me that he had a mural around here.

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So I walked around, and I didn't know this was his.

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I saw this, it inspired me, it was incredible, and suddenly when I spoke to him, I told him

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about this mural, and it ended up being his, because I didn't know exactly where it was

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at.

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I just stumbled across it one day.

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How do you think it would affect young people going by when they see this?

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What is it that people would do for it?

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Well, normally when you look at a mural, you don't think that that's what it's for.

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You don't think that it's to show a person what you feel, your inner self, or to make

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a statement or something like that.

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But if a person walks by here, they immediately see him lying down.

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They see the needle, and they see the connection between it, the needle, the skull, and the

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connection is just there.

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So when I walked by, I'd say my friends would walk by and they'd say something about it too.

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How do you think it expresses the feelings of someone who maybe has taken drugs?

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The energy inside of it.

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It looks as if he's suffering.

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As if something was going on inside his body he couldn't control.

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Everything was out of control.

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It's basically what you see.

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And even the background, you can't look at it all.

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You have to look at the background too.

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And the background is pretty strong.

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It just has lines, shapes going everywhere, and it's pretty strong.

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For more information on the

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US Department of Health and Human Services, visit

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the US Department of Health and Human Services website.

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Thank you.

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