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When I started out fishing when I was a boy that you go out 25 or 30 miles in a lake

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and you'd see this water

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Foaming on a white cap, you know while you're on the boat maybe out

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35 or 40 or 50 fathoms of water

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You could look down below the surface and

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And maybe see 150 feet down the fish coming up

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That far down. I mean you could actually see the fish in the nets and our equipment down there

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and you just crystal clear and it had

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Sort of an unexplainable color to it. It was just fantastic. It used to

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Just get me you know just to see something like that like crystal clear and you know blue and blue and white

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The sun colors and everything with a reflection in it. It's just beautiful

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I mean, it's something you have to appreciate

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Now notice the last four or five years

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It's not that way

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Fishing all my life started out on weekends were again

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kept my job, you know

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reconstructed every week

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Got started organized that way

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She's a good boat. Tell you she's one of the

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Nicest boats I've read out on the Great Lakes as far as weather is concerned

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We were out there

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Gales already

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Or as what I say virtually speaking the seagulls don't even fly in particular days. We were out in the lake, you know

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She's probably home on many a bad nights already where

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In some instances you'd be worried a little bit and I wasn't I mean

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I'm just a little bit different. I feel more at home. I don't like kind of watered and I do actually hear the streets of Chicago

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But it's in my blood once you get the bug, you know, it's hard to break away. I can break away maybe for

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six months or so or a year or two and do something else, but

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that

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attraction

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Will always be there

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And it'll always draw a person back once you get it in at least you'll you'd be working indoors or

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England someplace and

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The habits are always be with you where you look at the wind

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Which directions is blowing how hard the water you'll smell the fresh breeze and you'll wonder geez what am I doing here?

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Just so be out in a lake over it's

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Well, let's go back in the lake and stuff like that

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So it's always there once you get it in once you adapt this you just can't get away from it

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you know, you'll talk yourself out you move off into something else, but

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Sure as heck

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Here you come back six months later is six years later

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Think it's the other thing about the whole thing is the challenge you got to like a challenge and you've got to be

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You've got to accept this challenge and and then it's a challenge within yourself that you can compete

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with this particular force

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and survive and

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Accomplish what you want

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Oh

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About the fish business you could

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Be fairly well off one day in a bum virtually speaking the next day

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You gotta be willing to lose some in order to gain some

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I've gone out there and lost as high as ten thousand dollars with equipment

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I'm one night

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So

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This is pretty tough

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It's a big risk actually

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Ensuring people like us. It just gives you a little more food for talk in the business whether it's all worth it

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Getting out there and risking your life every day. This is what it is really. What's my color st. Peter?

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It's another thing. He was a fisherman. He's up at the pearly gates and they I'll get to see him

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He's not have something to kind of work

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It is an eye-faceted life did sit so it's not everybody can go out and

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working on a

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Rainbow dies fishing person to use his thing or the nice thing you want to do unless you look at the

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Little flits little bug like that. So the other thing our hours on a lake is

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Bad our average hours is

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tender

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15 hours and then some today the average person wants to work eight and less

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And five days a week and so forth

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And the fishing business you had to work seven days

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And we had work when it was there the drivers in this Christmas

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The Thanksgiving or whatever it was if the fish were running for it

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There was a demand and you had this particular thing going you had to keep on

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Going work because the following week or the following day or the following month. It wasn't there no more the fish have disappeared

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Know what you're doing out on the lake remains a lot

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You've gotta be constantly thinking about what you're doing. In other words, your mind is always back there. You're thinking

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What's your next moves are gonna be?

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And so for me didn't take so much out of a man

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And we don't have the people in the business today even

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That can make our new equipment as we did years ago

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Used to be able to have somebody make nets and so forth and string that's

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We know I have people around that were talented this week

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It's a trade by itself. You don't have it. Today. You're if you don't do it yourself. You just can't get it done

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There's no big

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I don't know where to go. I've tried to tap every

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Available source of manpower of help for people that might be interested in this this type of work and it's gonna be very

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Disappointing

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The other people I don't blame for not doing it because there are better things to do

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The people that are that I left now the old-timers and so forth their drifters to some extent

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They're not interested in they work when they want to which is little bit, you know, it's bad for us

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Like I says I couldn't couldn't get a spare man

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That's how close we work right now

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So when you do have a few people in the business that you're working what you have to hold on to them and cherish them because

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Nobody behind them after after this particular crop as I call it is gone. There ain't nobody else

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Working for prices that virtually you're back in depression days in the 30s and early 40s and so forth

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We're better than we're getting today

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I

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Been a lot of trouble in the fishing business

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The water is contaminated

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The fish are contaminated

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But also all the products are contaminated and it's just starting to hit the papers now

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our

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Livelihood our staples and that thing I heard I heard that I'm seeing these here cancerous

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Sars and fish out in the lake which I've never did

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What is cancerous chubs are out there the fish?

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The same thing was happening with our cattle

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poultry now they're trying to come in with crash programs to

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rehabilitate these wakes and so forth, but I'm afraid that when it gets to a certain point it gets out of hand

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They won't be able to do anything

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Chances are this generation here what?

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few of the profit is stuff that maybe music comes on

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Somebody else might mind my little guy or something like that. There won't be no clean water. There won't be no

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Fish anymore and stuff like this. So this is this is getting to be a serious thing. I

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can remember when I

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Was able to catch her and perched out off a 68 straight where used to be one of the nicest grounds

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The cleanest

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There is no more here. There is no more perching that area

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The perch up that we all met the greatest fishing grounds in shore areas. It's beautiful now the last several years

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We go down into these areas. We can't come up with any

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Any fish anymore to speak of you know, because it was changed the bottom to sediment

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the feeding grounds, I imagine are the spawn grounds of the cycle is changed on them, but

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The water has been bad down there for years already I tell you that's a bad part

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The northern is just as bad to another degree because of this washing problem

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We're having now you may be in a point now

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We might never be able to bring it back to be honest with you once it takes a hole

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Just the shame that the water is gonna go to waste and that's what's gonna happen I know

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because whatever crash programs they've got instituted now there was a

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Just not enough of it and this country don't realize or they don't know

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Just how bad they need these great ways, but as it is right now, it looks pretty pretty bad for the future

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Think back over the years what I remember when I first started out

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She would be crystal clear. You could you could look down in the water

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for 20 or 30 feet or 50 feet down below and see the fish coming up as clear as

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imaginable and you would hit a certain depth factor there where they like come up out of the night and when the water would boil and

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the water would fall

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From a sea you'll get the various colors and green and white

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blue and everything especially on a sunny day to the sun hits this just

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Colors and unimaginable you don't have that

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It's not that way

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It doesn't have that specialness that luster that

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Something, you know to attract you real fast

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It's

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Green that a sort of pale green pale blue the seas don't

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shine and sparkly

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Even that's 20 30 miles out in Lake City

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Very few people are very few things happening. It's nature still carrying on by itself out there

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People are losing that body of water that's so great to them that will be so

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Generation of people that will be alive and be so dependent on it. It would be all shot down

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too bad I

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Don't really know how long I'll be able to hold out under the circumstances

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I'm encountering these problems on along down the line

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I'm worried for what it going on, but I have to say could do

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All right, let's presume that we are out of business and there is nobody anymore that has the experience

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And capability of going out into the lake and working on the water

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Like even working with industry let's presume on some problems that have cropped up

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Why are you going to get these people if needed in the future?

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How long would take to change

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And they'll find out there isn't anybody no more then what they're gonna do. I

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Don't expect to see

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very very many people around

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So it's sort of a bad outlook on it, but that's what what's happening right there it's right there in front of us

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