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I didn't care.

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I guess they would be.

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That was my idea.

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And I never did live out on the hill.

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I didn't have no reason to go out that far.

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I stayed mostly in North St. Louis.

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See?

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And I found some very nice people.

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You know, we got along.

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But when I came on Semple Avenue,

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they were kind of different.

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The people downtown, further where I lived,

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they were more friendly.

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So when we bought that house,

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I think that lady that lived there

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must have told him around there,

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oh, there's a party going to come here with five kids,

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you know, and all that.

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So my next door neighbor didn't talk to me,

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so I didn't care.

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And we lived in the back.

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But the husband, when he went in the back,

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he'd say good morning or good evening.

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But they didn't live there long.

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They moved.

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Because they lived downstairs,

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and they had birds upstairs.

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Birds?

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Birds, yeah, they were singing birds,

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yellow birds, whatever you call them.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And that's what they had upstairs.

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And all these things, they never had those children.

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And then they moved,

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and somebody else come in, and it was much nicer.

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And then the one in the lot on the other side,

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they moved.

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What were your parents like?

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Can you describe your parents?

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You know, I can't hear you, friend, so good.

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Now you can hear, why don't you answer?

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I was your parent.

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Little talk, you listen.

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Come here.

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Okay, so now you're asking.

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You talk, because he can't hear.

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I can hear, but I can't hear.

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Hello!

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So what was your mom like?

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She was a nice-looking woman.

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She sure was.

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Tall.

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Tall.

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She was fair.

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She was from the northern part of Italy, nearby them.

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Nobody took her for an Italian.

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They thought she was German.

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My father was a nice-looking man, and he raised two.

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I'm going to buy a sherbert,

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and I want to put that in a plastic bag.

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Plastic bags?

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Yes, so it'll keep so it won't melt.

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Oh.

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What now?

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It's warm, and the sherbert will melt in this hot weather.

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Ice cream sherbert.

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Ice cream sherbert, yeah.

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And if you have it in a plastic bag and in another bag,

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probably it'll keep a little bit.

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Don't you see?

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I'm going to get some oil, and I'm going to get some bread,

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I'm going to get some eggs,

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I'm going to get some gallon of milk, thin milk.

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I want to get enough so I don't have to come back, you know?

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I'm going to get some ice cream sherbert,

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and I want to put that in a plastic bag.

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You can take my picture while I'm doing this too, if you want to.

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There wasn't nobody around that neighborhood to bother you

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because there was gangsters in those days.

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They watched this case.

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They didn't bother nobody.

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When they went out, they went out to get somebody that had the money

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to get it, whatever they done.

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Well, I'm going to tell you, when we lived on 18 Division,

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my father was robbed one night.

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By who?

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Coming home.

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See, he had a personality.

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When we lived on 18 Division, he had a personality.

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So I think he had bought a new pair of shoes,

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and the old ones were under his arm.

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So they thought he had money.

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So they gave him a whipping,

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because they didn't find no money, and they broke his ribs.

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Then he had to lay in bed for a while with his ribs,

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you know, bandaged up before he got better.

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Does he know who did it?

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I guess not.

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It was late at night, you know.

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So we didn't stay long on 18 Division on the corner.

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That's his passport photo.

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Yeah.

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There's two of them there.

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Where's the other one?

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That one.

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It's laying there loose.

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Give me that way, honey.

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Oh, here it is on the table.

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I don't want that one.

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This is better for you.

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Well, put it right next to the other one.

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This, you know, hold on.

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Oh, put it out next.

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That's a good one, that other one.

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Want some light on it?

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Oh, that's good.

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Ha ha ha.

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That's good. Okay.

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Mom?

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He looks like a mom.

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Well, there's a room that goes up the stair, I think.

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There's a pop-up in there.

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So do you miss Grandpa?

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No.

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Oh, yes, I do at times.

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But I have to get used to it.

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It's pretty lonely around here, I think.

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Huh?

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A little lonely around here?

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Yeah, it is at times, but

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when you have a little something to do around the house, the time passes, you know.

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Do you have a garden issue?

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No.

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No.

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You can just get a...

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No?

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Grandpa used to put the garden in.

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Yeah, but I'm not going to go digging at my age and put up a garden.

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I'm glad that I could do at 83 what I am doing.

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Well, he did it. He was 90 and he figured it out, didn't he?

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Yeah.

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Well, he let the weeds grow in the garden.

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He let them grow?

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Yeah.

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Then I'd have to pull them out myself.

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Was Grandpa hard to live with when he was older?

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Yeah.

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Did he have a little trouble?

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Yeah, he had problems.

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He said, if you get over it, you know.

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Hi, Noah!

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Hi, you made it!

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Mom!

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Hi there!

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He's taking pictures of us down the side.

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Are you checking me?

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Hi, guys.

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Hi, how are you?

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I know what you're talking about.

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Hi, Noah.

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Hi, baby!

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Hi, how are you?

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Good to see you.

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Hi, how are you?

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I'm great.

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Come on over.

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How are you?

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I don't see you in there.

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You've been gone long enough to kiss us.

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Yeah.

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I don't want you to look too easy.

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Look at that.

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Everybody has a right to their own mind.

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No, I agree with that.

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No, but I'm saying he came from a tradition, you know.

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And then he expected all the kids to be named after his folks.

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See, my oldest one, his father was named Girolamo in Italy.

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Okay.

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And I thought, well, Girolamo, I don't like that name.

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I'd call him James.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Now, Tudy is named after his oldest brother, Salvatore.

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And he says, of all the names you hang on me is Salvatore.

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Oh, he said, that's the Savior's name.

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You know, his father told him.

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And he cut it down to Sam because when he was in service,

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they were making fun of his name being Salvatore.

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See?

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Sure.

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And that's it.

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He said he liked the name of John.

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I should have called Gary.

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Excuse me.

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Maybe they have him over there.

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I like the old-fashioned ride.

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That's a mild ride, if they have it.

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They don't have too many seats.

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Do they have the old-fashioned ride here?

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I wonder.

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This is not old-fashioned either.

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This is 89.

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Listen, if you have any more issues,

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we'll put a 9-10 to you over here.

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Did he ever hit him?

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Sure he did.

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He sure did.

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He sure hit him.

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And when anybody hits you when they're mad, boy,

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they can really hurt you.

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Have you hurt him a couple times?

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Sure.

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Sure he did.

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Yes, he did.

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I remember when he was young,

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he went to a circus and stayed out all night.

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And boy, he was really mad and he really hit him.

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And he said, now you go out and help Joe sell paper.

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That wasn't right.

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He was so tired he slept on the lawn.

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Your daddy did.

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I'll never forget that either.

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And he shouldn't have done that.

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He shouldn't have done it.

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But the kids all turned out good.

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They turned out good and I'm glad too.

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He got up in the morning and he went to sell his papers

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and then from that he went out there and he won it.

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Won the race?

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He won the bicycle race.

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And he was so very proud.

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He was what, about 32 when he died, wasn't he?

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About 32.

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About 30 or something like that.

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And he had dropsy.

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There was no cure.

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They would tap him?

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No, they'd tap him and it would weaken him

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and give him a blood transfusion

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and he'd swell up, you know.

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His face would swell and other parts of his body

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would swell and everything.

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That was bad.

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And he knew he was going to die, but he didn't tell me.

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Because when the doctor told him,

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When the doctor told him he had dropsy, he cried.

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He sat there on the sidewalk in front of Gates

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and he told the customer that he was going to die.

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That doctor died too right after Joe, too.

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Dr. Pershe.

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He was on St. Louis.

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Is dropsy like a form of leukemia or what?

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No, dropsy is you've got a lot of fluid in your system

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at some point in time.

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It's under your skin, you know.

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Your system doesn't dispel the water.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I don't know too much about dropsy.

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Yeah.

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And one time they gave him a pill that drained it all out.

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And I thank God, I thought he was okay.

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And I told the doctor, he said,

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Well, he's going to fill up again.

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He only lived a year with it.

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I want to see what their potatoes is.

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Are they all the same, I wonder?

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Without a price on them?

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I'd have to call produce.

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There must be an error.

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Produce?

279
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Nobody's in there.

280
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I want to see if they've got some loose ones.

281
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The produce ain't in there.

282
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The produce man is not even around

283
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to get the tides on the potatoes.

284
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Where did he go?

285
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Well, I didn't ask him for a confession.

286
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See?

287
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He used to fall down.

288
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He'd try to sleep standing up and he'd fall down.

289
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Well, did you see?

290
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At last, the piece gets real swollen.

291
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And it gets heavy.

292
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And he just couldn't, you know, move.

293
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Home.

294
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295
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No, in the day.

296
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I had gone shopping.

297
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And I wasn't home, see?

298
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I left him there at the table.

299
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And then grandpa had just come home

300
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from a ruptured operation.

301
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And he was laying down in a bed.

302
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And Joe tried to get up while I was shopping.

303
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And he fell to the floor.

304
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When he fell to the floor, the fluid drowned him, you know.

305
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Well, when it was on his lungs, it drowned him.

306
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And then my neighbor, who lived in the front,

307
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came looking for me and found me.

308
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He was dead already on the floor.

309
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Going pre-send to?

310
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No, no.

311
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Not after he was dead.

312
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That's what I should have done for grandpa, too.

313
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But I didn't think of it.

314
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How much is a potato?

315
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Three pounds for a dollar?

316
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I didn't want the...

317
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They're more higher because they're new potatoes.

318
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And there's some in the bag over there.

319
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So they're not marked how much that ten pounds is.

320
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See, that's what I like to know.

321
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But there is no...

322
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Toadish man on the...

323
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Way down there?

324
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Well, I'm going to ask him.

325
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How much the pound, ten pounds is.

326
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You know, before he died,

327
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I smelled the scent of flowers in my house for two weeks,

328
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believe it or not.

329
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You know, just like the flowers that they have

330
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in these undertaking places.

331
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Did you smell them?

332
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Yeah, I could smell that perfume.

333
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You are?

334
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Yeah.

335
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Geez, like an old man's psyche.

336
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Yeah, well then I had Dr. Flood,

337
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I mean Father Flood, he came.

338
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And blessed him.

339
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He could eat.

340
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Father Flood?

341
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342
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You know that he's out at St. Kevin's now?

343
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Oh, is he?

344
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Yes.

345
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Well, he was there, Father Boal was there too.

346
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But then I called Father Flood.

347
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And then Father?

348
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And then Joe just ate his breakfast, you know, he'd eat.

349
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All right, that's one good thing.

350
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And then I told him I was going to call the priest.

351
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What for, he said, see.

352
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I said, well, he was going to say some prayers.

353
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That'll help him.

354
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So all he done is just bless him on that.

355
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And that's all.

356
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That's because we just put it out,

357
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it's been refrigerated in the back room back there.

358
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It's got some moisture in it.

359
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How about this?

360
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See, that's a good one, that's a good one.

361
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That's a good one.

362
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All right, put that back here.

363
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Okay.

364
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What is that telephone?

365
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Thank you, ma'am.

366
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Yeah.

367
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You have to look.

368
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Now I'm going, I'm going to get...

369
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Over here looking for something.

370
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I'll tell you one time when I was, I don't know how old I was,

371
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if I was 12 or 13.

372
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And it was a palm reader on Franklin Avenue.

373
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And I was reading that palm reader and I was thinking,

374
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375
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376
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377
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378
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379
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So I went in there.

380
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They read your palm, you know.

381
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She sat me up on the table.

382
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And I put touch, her body, boy, she was born.

383
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And she would tell me you're going to have a lot of children,

384
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but you're not going to raise them all and you're going to be a widow.

385
00:16:30.680 --> 00:16:32.680
Pepper, get the phone.

386
00:16:33.380 --> 00:16:34.620
Get him outside, Brand.

387
00:16:34.820 --> 00:16:35.680
Get him off of that.

388
00:16:36.620 --> 00:16:36.800
Yeah.

389
00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:37.920
Okay, let him out.

390
00:16:38.300 --> 00:16:39.000
I ain't sad.

391
00:16:40.020 --> 00:16:44.320
Frank, Frank, get the dog, get the phone, and take him out of the bag.

392
00:16:44.700 --> 00:16:45.580
Right here.

393
00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:49.640
Is this grandpa's room?

394
00:16:49.780 --> 00:16:50.160
Yeah.

395
00:16:50.400 --> 00:16:52.120
Is this the statue that you...

396
00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:52.780
I bought.

397
00:16:53.620 --> 00:16:54.860
He didn't make that.

398
00:16:55.460 --> 00:16:57.480
Maybe it is plaster, Paris...

399
00:16:57.480 --> 00:16:59.260
That's plaster. That's plaster.

400
00:16:59.420 --> 00:17:02.580
Yeah, but I bought it from a man that went around.

401
00:17:03.540 --> 00:17:05.580
Oh, I got everything upside down here.

402
00:17:05.840 --> 00:17:07.040
How much did you pay for it?

403
00:17:07.800 --> 00:17:09.840
Oh, I don't know. It was years ago.

404
00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:14.560
I don't know if I paid even a sillon and a half, paid her 50 cents a week,

405
00:17:16.020 --> 00:17:17.260
until it was paid up.

406
00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:19.280
So you've had that for...

407
00:17:19.280 --> 00:17:21.040
Oh, a long time since I lived on...

408
00:17:21.560 --> 00:17:25.920
I'm here for about 16 years, and I don't know how long I lived over there.

409
00:17:27.140 --> 00:17:29.200
That's a long time, see, it even needs paying.

410
00:17:30.300 --> 00:17:34.280
Before he did pass, he said he thought he was going to die.

411
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So he went to bed and stayed there all day and got up at night and was okay,

412
00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:41.300
and he ate. He was down there about two times.

413
00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:46.100
But the day that he did pass, he didn't say nothing.

414
00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:50.540
He ate his breakfast, then he'd come in and ate his supper,

415
00:17:50.580 --> 00:17:55.800
and he went and looked at TV, at Gunsmoke, from seven to eight.

416
00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:57.740
Then he got up and he went to the bathroom.

417
00:17:59.600 --> 00:18:02.760
I think he went in the bathroom, then he went into the kitchen.

418
00:18:03.340 --> 00:18:08.880
Then he was coming into the dining room, and I seen he was headed to fall.

419
00:18:11.800 --> 00:18:14.940
So I went up in front of him, and I said,

420
00:18:15.520 --> 00:18:18.740
you walked over to the dining room table, I said, hold on to there.

421
00:18:19.320 --> 00:18:21.740
And I said, hold on to the dining room table.

422
00:18:21.840 --> 00:18:24.140
With that, he slipped down and he was gone.

423
00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:27.340
The heart gave out. Yeah, he was gone.

424
00:18:28.620 --> 00:18:34.960
And then I called the police, you know, and then they got an ambulance.

425
00:18:35.220 --> 00:18:38.160
You know, the fire departments have got an ambulance, and that's free.

426
00:18:38.780 --> 00:18:43.240
But that, he slipped down and he was gone. Died.

427
00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:51.340
Then I called the police, and then they have that ambulance that comes, that's free, you know.

428
00:18:51.340 --> 00:18:57.540
Yeah, and they tried, how they rub you, you know, try to get your heart, but didn't do it.

429
00:18:58.100 --> 00:19:04.100
And they had him in the emergency room, probably trying to bring him to, but they couldn't.

430
00:19:04.320 --> 00:19:05.560
They said, well, he passed.

431
00:19:06.040 --> 00:19:10.840
But when they took him to the osteopathic hospital, they couldn't do nothing.

432
00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:26.220
Wow. Beautiful. Beautiful.

433
00:19:36.360 --> 00:19:39.640
They give you first aid at home, and then they take you to the hospital.

434
00:19:39.820 --> 00:19:43.540
But when they took him to the hospital, he was dead. They couldn't bring him to you.

435
00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:45.340
So we had to get the undertakers.

436
00:19:46.460 --> 00:19:50.900
And they always used to say, why does one have to live so long?

437
00:19:51.500 --> 00:19:58.700
He was 92 and he couldn't do nothing, you know what I mean, but sit on the porch when it was nice and warm, and he'd eat.

438
00:19:58.780 --> 00:20:02.500
Oh, he ate till last. Oh, did you? Oh, he ate till last, too.

439
00:20:05.100 --> 00:20:10.440
And that's how it all happened. Oh, you didn't get the coffee? Huh?

440
00:20:10.840 --> 00:20:11.180
There isn't.

441
00:20:11.180 --> 00:20:12.300
You want to make some?

442
00:20:12.300 --> 00:20:15.420
You want to have any coffee, Bernardo? Can you make some?

443
00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:17.080
I will.

444
00:20:17.740 --> 00:20:18.420
Thank you.

445
00:20:19.040 --> 00:20:23.300
The cake is good. That's good cake. I think Marsha made that cake. It's good.

446
00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:26.120
All right.

447
00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:44.840
Take that.

448
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449
00:20:46.040 --> 00:20:47.020
There you go, Marsha.

450
00:20:48.060 --> 00:20:49.480
Get that stuff out of there.

451
00:21:17.540 --> 00:21:20.160
Thank you.