WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:12.000 I'm Chuck Kleinhans, I'm making this film. 2 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:16.020 Yesterday, March 30th, President Reagan was shot and wounded. 3 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:23.660 And yesterday, my doctor told me that I had carpal tunnel syndrome, which is an inflammation 4 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:30.060 of the wrist muscles in both of my hands, which constricts the nerves. 5 00:00:31.880 --> 00:00:36.780 Essentially, because of this, I'm unable at certain times to close my fist. 6 00:00:37.500 --> 00:00:44.360 And this is a chronic disease which is now being treated with medicine, which I have to take three times a day. 7 00:00:45.760 --> 00:00:48.300 The pills I have to take, I'll take them right now. 8 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:54.000 I'm supposed to take this with milk, but I'll take some milk right afterwards. 9 00:00:58.740 --> 00:01:08.440 And if it's not treated with, treatable with medicine, the next step is to inject steroids in my wrists. 10 00:01:09.260 --> 00:01:11.480 And the step after that is surgery. 11 00:01:14.180 --> 00:01:15.680 I'm having a hard time getting the pill down. 12 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:23.360 Okay. This is really the first time that I've had to deal with the possibility of having a chronic illness. 13 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:26.800 And that's a very sobering thought for me. 14 00:01:27.860 --> 00:01:30.180 I guess it makes me think that I'm approaching middle age. 15 00:01:32.160 --> 00:01:37.300 Let's see. And I'm going to have decided to make this film and to record some of the events in my life. 16 00:01:37.600 --> 00:01:43.420 This is where I live and work during the day, Annie Mae Swift at Northwestern University, 17 00:01:43.420 --> 00:01:46.040 which is the School of Speech's building. 18 00:01:46.820 --> 00:01:53.400 And the people who are helping me make this film are some other filmmakers, Rob Sabal, who is operating the camera, 19 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:57.100 and Courtney Newman, who is filming us time this film. Courtney? 20 00:01:59.800 --> 00:02:01.760 I don't know if you can be seen. 21 00:02:03.260 --> 00:02:07.660 I teach film criticism theory and filmmaking at Northwestern. 22 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:10.780 And that's about all that I'm going to say at this time. 23 00:02:12.200 --> 00:02:15.200 You'll start flexing things you never even knew you had. 24 00:02:15.300 --> 00:02:17.160 Okay. What about the out-of-focus shot? 25 00:02:17.780 --> 00:02:24.580 I think you should leave that in because it shows a certain amount of fundamental development in the person shooting it. 26 00:02:25.020 --> 00:02:29.240 Okay. What do you think of the out-of-focus shot? 27 00:02:30.320 --> 00:02:31.880 I don't like anything out-of-focus. 28 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.940 You don't like it if it's out-of-focus? Okay. How do you feel about it? 29 00:02:36.940 --> 00:02:43.140 I think it should be taken out. If the shot doesn't have a reason to be in like that, it adds nothing aesthetically. 30 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:44.840 I don't think it should be allowed. 31 00:02:45.420 --> 00:02:47.420 Okay. Thank you. Your opinion? 32 00:02:51.180 --> 00:02:52.620 I think I'd have to see the whole picture. 33 00:02:53.300 --> 00:02:55.860 Okay. Safe view. Okay. What do you think? 34 00:02:56.260 --> 00:02:58.140 I think it would be easy to redo. 35 00:02:58.760 --> 00:03:02.120 Easy to redo? Yeah, but it's the wrong date, right? 36 00:03:02.660 --> 00:03:03.820 I think you should leave it in. 37 00:03:03.820 --> 00:03:06.400 I'm glad you made it through the shot with all the pills. 38 00:03:07.880 --> 00:03:09.100 Okay. What do you think? 39 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:14.460 I think it's good. It helps your audience soften the reality of this chronic illness. 40 00:03:16.060 --> 00:03:17.180 Soften it. Okay. 41 00:03:17.320 --> 00:03:19.180 I think someone said fundamental. 42 00:03:20.380 --> 00:03:23.200 Okay. Rob, we want to ask you. 43 00:03:23.980 --> 00:03:24.800 I took the shot. 44 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:25.720 I know the motor vehicle. 45 00:03:25.740 --> 00:03:31.140 I think it helps to show everybody that may see the film that you are just a little bit human. 46 00:03:31.140 --> 00:03:33.700 Okay. Just a little bit. 47 00:03:34.440 --> 00:03:38.160 Leave it in, definitely. But also leave the wind in. That adds a lot. 48 00:03:38.380 --> 00:03:40.980 You like the wind, too. Okay. I don't know. 49 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:42.840 Should we let these filmmakers do anything? 50 00:03:43.260 --> 00:03:46.280 Well, listen, Rob. You are the cameraman. Defend yourself. 51 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:56.820 Well, I was trying to show the background more than you because the film is about the difference between where you live and where you work up here. 52 00:03:56.820 --> 00:04:06.740 So I thought scenes of the building and people passing by would give more information and be a whole different level than just having you talking and having the background out. 53 00:04:07.260 --> 00:04:09.860 That's not just some kind of elaborate excuse. 54 00:04:10.660 --> 00:04:12.320 That's not an elaborate excuse. 55 00:04:13.760 --> 00:04:22.780 Actually, I think part of it was that I was having trouble with the diopter, but knew that when I zoomed out I would... 56 00:04:22.780 --> 00:04:25.760 Yeah, we've heard that you used that diopter problem before, right? 57 00:04:25.760 --> 00:04:28.760 That is, you know... 58 00:04:29.300 --> 00:04:30.960 Well, what do you think about the shot, Jack? 59 00:04:31.700 --> 00:04:40.220 I think I should leave it in because even though it's going to be real irritating for people right at the beginning of the film, it also shows a certain, I think, humorous ineptness. 60 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:44.100 And I don't mind. I don't... 61 00:04:45.080 --> 00:04:53.320 I got out of graduate school. I got my PhD in comparative literature in 1973, summer of 73. 62 00:04:53.320 --> 00:05:00.640 And then I came to Chicago. I didn't have a job, and at first I was driving a school bus for handicapped kids. 63 00:05:02.020 --> 00:05:15.780 That was the first job. And then I started working with a thing called Citizens Action Program, which was a community organizing project, going around different neighborhoods, door to door, talking with people about issues and trying to organize them. 64 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:22.780 And then I got a job at Chicago State, which is a school, college on the south side of Chicago. 65 00:05:24.660 --> 00:05:30.440 And after that I was teaching at Northeastern, which is on the northwest side of Chicago. 66 00:05:31.080 --> 00:05:37.600 But those were part-time jobs, so I really never had any security from semester to semester as to whether I was going to work or not. 67 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.840 So it was really great to get to Northwestern and to get that job. 68 00:05:41.980 --> 00:05:46.840 The summer before I came to Northwestern, I received a visit from a representative of fraternity. 69 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:53.120 He showed me pictures of nude women from the fraternity party the year before. I thought it was really great. 70 00:05:53.420 --> 00:05:59.140 He told me that Northwestern had the prettiest coeds in the Big Ten. He told me that Northwestern was the harbor of the Midwest. 71 00:05:59.660 --> 00:06:05.920 When I got here, I found out that all those beautiful coeds were the daughters of Midwestern Chevrolet dealers. Boy, was I disappointed. 72 00:06:06.940 --> 00:06:07.620 Why don't you stop? 73 00:06:07.620 --> 00:06:12.640 My name is Randall Wesley Haun, and I'm a radio, TV, film student and theater student. 74 00:06:14.220 --> 00:06:18.820 And actually I don't pay too much to go here. They pay me grant money and stuff like that. 75 00:06:19.580 --> 00:06:24.060 The education I'm getting here is probably the best in the country. And what else? 76 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:25.100 Why is it the best in the country? 77 00:06:25.760 --> 00:06:33.760 Well, because we've got the top professors here and the top classes, and I learn more than I would have, I feel, in any other type of college situation. 78 00:06:33.760 --> 00:06:44.500 Especially since I'm away from home and it's a better atmosphere. If I were just a commuting student, I would feel like I was still in high school and I wouldn't be able to get into college as much. 79 00:06:47.960 --> 00:06:51.760 Hi, my name is Jim Hanson, and I'm a film student here at Northwestern. 80 00:06:52.780 --> 00:07:00.860 Chuck's a professor for an experimental film course I'm taking, and he's asked me to comment on what I think of Northwestern students. 81 00:07:00.860 --> 00:07:04.900 All I've got to say is this place is too much. 82 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:15.260 Hi, my name is Keir, and I'm also a student here. I'd like to say that most Northwestern students aren't like me. That's about all I can think of. 83 00:07:15.780 --> 00:07:25.380 Hi, my name is Gail, and I'm also a student here. And I think that most Northwestern students here are pretty much students. Very into being students. 84 00:07:28.620 --> 00:07:39.800 Hi, I'm Jim Hanson, I'm a film student here at Northwestern. Chuck's my professor for an experimental film course. It's a really good course, I recommend you take it. It'll do you right. 85 00:07:40.320 --> 00:07:47.940 And he asked me to speak about Northwestern students. Yeah, Northwestern students are alright. You know, they get along. The place is doing it. 86 00:07:49.140 --> 00:07:57.140 My name's Keir, I'm a student in political science here at Northwestern, and I think Northwestern students are pretty run-of-the-mill as far as students go. 87 00:07:58.700 --> 00:08:07.120 My name's Gail, and I'm a comm studies major here at Northwestern. And I still think the students are pretty much into being students and studying and all that kind of stuff. 88 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:10.060 What separates Northwestern students from other students? 89 00:08:12.260 --> 00:08:15.080 Just being out in Evanston probably makes a big difference. 90 00:08:15.740 --> 00:08:16.140 Why? 91 00:08:16.140 --> 00:08:20.900 Because it changes the way they look at the school, I think. It makes them more into studying. 92 00:08:21.780 --> 00:08:22.540 More into studying? 93 00:08:22.980 --> 00:08:22.980 94 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:23.680 Okay. 95 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.280 Three, two, one. 96 00:08:26.660 --> 00:08:42.420 My name's Liz Schillinger, I'm a graduate student in the film department, Chuck's my teacher. And the way I would characterize Northwestern students is very fashionable. Very chic. Overall. You know. So, that's it. 97 00:08:43.020 --> 00:08:50.060 Okay. I'm Ray Narducci, and I'm a father of a ten-year-old. I've been to, I've been going to Northwestern for about eight years. 98 00:08:50.440 --> 00:09:02.860 I think the biggest characteristic I would say about Northwestern students is a great degree of conformity. They like to conform in fashion and style, and in the way they attack classes, too. 99 00:09:06.620 --> 00:09:11.960 Hi, my name is Phil Stamborski, and I'm a speech senior here at Northwestern. I'm majoring in radio TV film. 100 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:21.860 One of the things that I think that characterize students here at Northwestern is that they're fairly conservative. Many of them come from very conservative backgrounds and somewhat sheltered. 101 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:30.960 But another thing that I find though is they are very ambitious and hardworking and a lot friendlier. So I transferred here from U of I about two years ago. 102 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:36.000 I think the main difference is that people here are much more talented and much more ambitious. 103 00:09:36.180 --> 00:09:39.340 I can't think of anything else to say. 104 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:51.180 Gretchen Bisslingha. I am an author. I'm a grad student at Northwestern. And Chuck Kleinhans is a friend, and he's my dissertation advisor. 105 00:09:52.980 --> 00:10:05.060 Northwestern University students come to the University because it's the heart of the Midwest. And I think that's their attitude, and I think that's what characterizes them. 106 00:10:08.280 --> 00:10:17.240 Yes, hello. My name is Ed Ditmars, and I work here at Northwestern University, and Chuck has asked me to be in his film. 107 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:22.600 And I believe the question he asked me was how would I characterize Northwestern students? 108 00:10:23.380 --> 00:10:33.900 Well, I hate having to work with the generalization or any type of word that's supposed to put human beings, which are so diverse, into a category. 109 00:10:34.620 --> 00:10:45.400 But I'd say first of all you have to have either a lot of money to get here or some form of scholarship, which makes you, I think, automatically a form of an elitist. 110 00:10:45.400 --> 00:10:54.480 And I think the students here are all trying to get an education so that they can be, let's say, elite or above other people in whatever field they have chosen. 111 00:10:54.620 --> 00:11:02.380 I think a lot of the school is almost a little snobbish, while I think other people are constantly fighting the snobbishness. 112 00:11:04.400 --> 00:11:20.980 I think that, not much, no, I do think, but now I don't know exactly which students he's talking about. 113 00:11:21.220 --> 00:11:28.040 Now, if he was talking about me when I was here as a student, I'd say they were very intelligent, witty, clever, very sophisticated. 114 00:11:28.040 --> 00:11:34.580 Now, if you're talking about some of the people I've had to deal with here now, well, I'd say, gosh, crass, rude, nasty. 115 00:11:35.300 --> 00:11:45.740 So I'd say that, to best fit this description, I'd say that they're, at least they're all human beings, you know. 116 00:11:47.040 --> 00:11:52.920 And I'd say that they have to work hard to, they have to work hard to. 117 00:11:52.920 --> 00:12:01.540 One thing is no one ever listens to them, or they listen to them, but they don't really pay enough attention to the students that are talking here. 118 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:03.580 I wish people would pay a little more attention. 119 00:12:03.580 --> 00:12:05.620 Any questions for Ed? 120 00:12:06.400 --> 00:12:06.820 Who? 121 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:08.320 Virginia. 122 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:09.600 Good question.