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The ordinance is originally presented.

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The ordinance was submitted to the board plus there is a different club, company, corporation,

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and business trust institution agency government corporation.

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The man, woman, singular or plural is included in any circumstance.

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Retail back of dealer means any person for resale in any form.

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Retail, resale, selling means any transfer of ownership or possession or both or by any means to re-ordinates.

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The man, woman, singular, is included in any circumstance.

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The back of dealer is to purchase cigarettes from any person unless each package bears an unutilated tax stamp fixed there to and canceled there on in a manner required by this

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and we again delete the word chapter and put in ordinance.

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A dealer of cigarettes having no stamp of fixed and canceled shall give rise to a prima facie presumption that such cigarettes are possessed by him in violation of the provisions of this.

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Again delete the word and we shall contract for and furnish tax stamps of such denominations and quantities as may be necessary for the payment of the tax

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and we close by this again to delete the word chapter and insert the word ordinance and may from time to time upon the request or recommendation of the Bureau of Administration provide for the other designs.

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The Bureau of Administration may provide for the other designs.

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The Bureau of Administration may provide for the other designs.

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The Bureau of Administration may provide for the other designs.

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The Bureau of Administration may provide for the other designs.

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The Bureau of Administration may provide for the other designs.

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Dropping out the word chapter and inserting in the who thereof ordinance.

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Then we begin with the new sentence.

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Said return shall be...

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...a comparable set of rules and regulations again perhaps used by the state which we will have as a format or are we going to start fresh on the rules and regulations because it seems to be...

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...I see.

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That's very helpful to know that so we get a hold of those who have some idea what's coming down the road because it doesn't state that it just says they may enter at any time and I'd like to suggest that be considered on page five paragraph six.

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Mr. President, Commissioners, that the county board's responsibility to the people of this county and the state is an awesome responsibility.

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Certainly no one can deny that the county's financial difficulty and needs effect would be...

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...the tax that we're going to put on accused me of grabbing his tax.

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I don't know whether or not he's thinking of another tax or not but he apparently is not worried about the loss of revenue to the state in these areas.

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At least I didn't get that impression.

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But I did get that letter Commissioner and I will transmit it to all of you.

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Is there any way you may...

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...down the street?

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To all our locations we have two people on every truck.

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We have attack dogs.

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Every retailer in the city of New York cannot keep merchandise in his place so he has to get delivered practically every day and he's an armed camp.

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...including talking to some sheriffs, to some of my former associates in the FBI.

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And unless these legitimate people hire their own police force or at least a good organization to turn things over...

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I don't think Cook County or Chicago or the state police can enforce in such a way as to keep the corrupting influence of the crime syndicate out of this.

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Therefore with reluctance I'm voting no on this.

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The motion has been made and seconded yes.

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I'd like to speak with...

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Mr. President, fellow members of the board, I came here today prepared to vote yes on this order.

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I'm concerned about the testimony that I have heard here.

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I am particularly concerned when my fellow Commissioner Joseph Woods, former sheriff of this county, is concerned about the increase in criminal activity which might emanate from this increase in tax.

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That to me is a very persuasive point in opposition to the tax.

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There's no question about what we do need the funds.

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And as the ordinance has been presented it is fairly drawn, it is correctly drawn, and it has been well thought out.

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However, if there is indeed a significant danger of increased criminal activity of any significant degree, as apparently there may be, and if there is a body of testimony residing in any of our agencies, our law enforcement agencies as subsidized by the LEAA,

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I think that this committee ought to fully hear that testimony and hear further testimony from law enforcement...

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What bothers me is that it seems to me that there's a position that we're allowing the syndicate or organized crime, whatever you want to call it, to hold us hostage.

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And I find that intolerable. I find it intolerable that we would sit and be sitting here today and discussing whether or not we should put a tax on based upon whether or not the organized crime is going to move in or not.

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If we follow that type of reasoning, that means that on anything that involves a possible bootlegging measure that the organized crime might move into, we should not tax.

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To me that's abhorrent.

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If we need a tax, we feel that is a reasonable place to place the tax. If we have to take measures, whatever measures we have to take to put them out of business, we should be taking.

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And if New York City is sitting over there and allowing rampant millions, hundreds and hundreds of millions as testified here to be lost because they are not enforcing their own laws, then they deserve the mess they're in.

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Your talk, I heard a figure of 800 million to a billion, in other words, miscellany figures that were presented that are lost because of the syndicate bootlegging cigarettes.

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If that's the case, there was a heck of a lot of money that they could have used to make sure their laws were enforced.

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I have an opinion about cigarettes in general, and I wouldn't care if you had $2,000 tax on every cigarette, because I believe that a cigarette is a health-destroying habit.

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And I spoke to doctors at County Hospital who have gone into great detail saying that a lot of our problems here are concerned with having to take care of people who are cigarette smokers as also people who do drink and drive dangerously.

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And so we have tax on both liquor and possibly on cigarettes.

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So I wouldn't care if you outlawed cigarettes, but I'm worried about this syndicate business and I don't want us to be held hostage as Commissioner Terrell said.

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And the only kind of testimony that we didn't have today was from law enforcement units.

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I'm not saying that I didn't consider that Commissioner Woods didn't have any experience, but we didn't have anybody come in and tell us about this.

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And I know we're thinking about the bonding and the high rates of what we will get in our bonding.

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The syndicate business is really true, and so I move that we defer voting on this today to investigate this thoroughly so that we can have a clear conscience in voting for it.

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And this by no means means that I am against money for County Hospital or against any of the things, the county collecting money, but I do think that this has been one big hole in this testimony.

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We really haven't had except a letter from the Chicago Crime Commission explaining this.

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And so that I would respectfully move that this be postponed until we can get law enforcement officials in here to really tell us the truth about this from their point of view.

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I second that motion, Mr. Chair.

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Motions are made and seconded for deferment.

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Roll call on the motion.

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Roll call.

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Be as sad.

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No.

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Casey.

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No.

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Chesrow.

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Hanson.

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Aye.

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Hernandez.

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No.

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Ten no, three aye, three aye.

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Motion to defer has lost.

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The chair will now entertain the motion presented by Commissioner Dunn and seconded by Commissioner Biaschak.

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I'll have a roll call.

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Roll call.

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Biaschak.

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Aye.

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Casey.

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Chesrow.

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Larson.

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Wood.

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President Dunn.

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Aye.

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Ten aye, one nay, two pass, three aye.

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The ordinance has passed and it will be referred to the board of commissioners at its next

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meeting.

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This meeting stands adjourned.

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