WEBVTT 1 00:00:18.560 --> 00:00:23.800 In the case of Nathan F. Leopold, Jr., a definite sentence parole has been granted. 2 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:30.500 The location and occupation of the subject will be investigated by parole supervision immediately. 3 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.680 Well, that's good. You're still a young man. You can go out and make a lot of things in life. 4 00:00:53.400 --> 00:00:57.720 Young? At 60, he's catching right up on me. I don't know how young he is. 5 00:01:01.420 --> 00:01:04.780 Well, Rod, will you tell us what kind of a prisoner Roger's been all these years? 6 00:01:05.440 --> 00:01:13.040 Yeah, he's been a good prisoner. He's stayed with the rules of the institution. He's got along all right. We've had no trouble with him at all. 7 00:01:15.080 --> 00:01:16.620 How'd you find a warden, Roger? 8 00:01:17.620 --> 00:01:20.300 Not the same. 9 00:01:22.540 --> 00:01:23.700 I'm glad you're here. 10 00:01:28.320 --> 00:01:30.800 Leopold gave me this statement this morning. 11 00:01:31.520 --> 00:01:36.540 I have two things to say, that I am grateful and that I am determined. 12 00:01:37.340 --> 00:01:46.320 I am grateful first of all to God, for men can only do what God permits them to do. 13 00:01:46.320 --> 00:01:50.560 I am grateful to the parole board for giving me the opportunity. 14 00:01:51.360 --> 00:01:57.360 I am grateful to my many, many friends who have given me their help, their good wishes, and their prayers. 15 00:01:57.980 --> 00:02:07.000 I am grateful to the press and to the other mass media of communication for fair and charitable coverage of my case. 16 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:13.640 I am determined to do my utmost to justify the face shown in me. 17 00:02:38.640 --> 00:02:38.700 Thank you. 18 00:03:11.580 --> 00:03:14.380 Thank you. 19 00:03:41.260 --> 00:03:44.060 Thank you. 20 00:03:44.920 --> 00:03:48.860 Roger was happier tonight than I've ever seen him in my whole life. 21 00:03:49.720 --> 00:03:55.760 He felt that he's accustomed himself to civilian life. He felt real good. 22 00:03:57.100 --> 00:04:00.340 There was no reason for Roger Tooe to be killed except one. 23 00:04:01.600 --> 00:04:12.340 And when you go up against the criminal mob in the United States, and you talk too much, and you defy the mob, you get killed. 24 00:04:12.340 --> 00:04:18.020 And that's why Roger Tooe was killed, and for no other reason, because he defied the mob. 25 00:04:18.380 --> 00:04:22.340 There is no other possible explanation for it. 26 00:04:34.760 --> 00:04:41.300 He stated he saw two men run across the street to the west and disappear through a passageway. 27 00:04:41.300 --> 00:04:47.920 Before they hit the street, he had fired several shots at them, and believes he hit the taller one of the two. 28 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:24.540 He was shot in the head. 29 00:05:24.540 --> 00:05:24.540 30 00:05:24.540 --> 00:05:24.580 He was shot in the head. 31 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:26.700 He was shot in the head. 32 00:05:26.740 --> 00:05:27.120 He was shot in the head. 33 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:27.520 He was shot in the head. 34 00:05:27.520 --> 00:05:28.120 He was shot in the head. 35 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:28.120 36 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:28.120 37 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:28.300 He was shot in the head. 38 00:05:28.300 --> 00:05:29.660 He was shot in the head. 39 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:30.620 He was shot in the head. 40 00:05:30.620 --> 00:05:30.660 He was shot in the head. 41 00:05:30.660 --> 00:05:31.100 He was shot in the head. 42 00:05:43.620 --> 00:05:44.160 He was shot in the head. 43 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:47.060 However, the worries were not concerned with physical violence. 44 00:05:47.840 --> 00:05:56.040 He was very deeply worried, concerned, and he has been ever since he's been out of the pentatats around parole, 45 00:05:56.040 --> 00:06:04.580 that somebody would in some way frame him or make it a fear that he had violated his parole and he would be sent back to the pentatats. 46 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:15.160 For that reason, Roger Toohey in all these three weeks never left his home alone. 47 00:06:16.060 --> 00:06:18.440 He never came to downtown alone. 48 00:06:19.300 --> 00:06:23.580 He regarded Dan Gilbert and he said so publicly and many, many times. 49 00:06:24.440 --> 00:06:25.700 He was the worst enemy of his life. 50 00:06:25.700 --> 00:06:31.480 Have you any specific knowledge that people that are being named here could have anything to do with this sort of thing? 51 00:06:31.880 --> 00:06:32.940 Absolutely no knowledge of him. 52 00:06:33.020 --> 00:06:33.680 No knowledge? 53 00:06:35.220 --> 00:06:45.920 I'm simply telling you that who would here say knowledge to the fact that Roger Toohey said many, many times that the people he regarded as his worst enemies, 54 00:06:46.960 --> 00:06:53.800 the list was led by Dan Gilbert, John Factor was number two, and Thomas J. Courtney was number three. 55 00:06:55.080 --> 00:06:57.580 I'm not going to say anything against John Factor. 56 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.960 John Factor is not a man of violence so far as I have ever known. 57 00:07:04.220 --> 00:07:12.980 I would like to affirm that I said no such thing, and I'm not trying to duck out of a libel suit because if I thought Jake Factor killed him, I'd say so right here now. 58 00:07:24.420 --> 00:07:30.640 I object to Mr. Brennan's statement that I was his enemy number two. 59 00:07:31.880 --> 00:07:36.320 In one breath he says that I'm not a man of violence. 60 00:07:36.880 --> 00:07:40.180 Well, hate and violence are both together in my opinion. 61 00:07:41.400 --> 00:07:57.600 And I testified in front of the pardon board and I said that I have no objection to his parole if the pardon board feels that he has rehabilitated himself and can live as a good citizen. 62 00:07:58.020 --> 00:08:00.620 Because that is our system of parole. 63 00:08:01.700 --> 00:08:04.280 Let me ask you this question. Would you take a lie test on this? 64 00:08:04.340 --> 00:08:05.160 I sure would. 65 00:08:05.460 --> 00:08:05.900 You would? 66 00:08:06.100 --> 00:08:06.560 Yes, sir. 67 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:07.120 Okay. 68 00:08:11.900 --> 00:08:12.240 Thank you.