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They give you fellow something to talk about and ask questions about.

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They're of no use whatever in a convention.

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For this reason, I think there are only three out of the presidential primaries that are

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binding and the rest of them aren't.

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They can either go by them or do as they please with them.

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And they're not in some instances where they are binding.

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They do not limit them to a party primary.

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They can cross over and vote on both sides of the thing.

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And you wouldn't have any in that case, you would hardly ever have any conventions

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except to pass resolutions on what the platform of the party ought to be.

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Mr. President, you referred to presidential, presidential primaries as I watch.

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How do you feel about state nominated primaries?

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State nominating primaries are statewide and they're perfectly all right.

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I've been through two of them myself.

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And to the bitterest fights I ever had in my life, but I won them.

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But that's a different matter entirely.

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Now I'm putting the whole United States on the same basis as a statewide primary is.

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Well, how do you feel in particular about the state primaries?

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Is it a worthwhile institution?

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Oh yes, I really think it is.

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But here's the thing you want to take into consideration.

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Out in the world is a man going to make a campaign for president of the United States

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and at the same time make a president of the campaign to be nominated

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for president of the United States in 50 states now.

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It's almost a physical impossibility.

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I don't think it could be done.

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Now that's my honest opinion.

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Mr. President.

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Yes.

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Just to tell you something, if you were to go to the store and ask them what this is,

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if anyone came to my store and asked what this is, that's all I'm allowed to do.

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I would too.

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Now I sent you a telegram telling you just exactly what I'd do.

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But I wouldn't throw them out if they came in there to buy

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and said I don't know if they're hating themselves at the counter,

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just like any other customer.

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But if they came in there to close up my place of business,

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they'd have a hard time doing it.

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Does it seem to us that you are supposed to be a citizen of the United States?

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Yes, I think they're foolish in doing that.

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They're causing ill will among the people who want to be their friends.

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Is there any alternative?

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Yes, there's an alternative.

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Of course there's an alternative.

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We're working on it all the time.

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Have you ever read the book that I had published when I was president of the United States

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to secure these rights?

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If you haven't, you get it in reading.

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You'll find out something.

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Maybe you don't know if you haven't read it.

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I haven't read it.

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All right then, you know what it means.

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But there's no real reason for it.

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Well, yes, there's discrimination.

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And the only way to overcome that is by goodwill and common sense.

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And you can't do it by closing up a man's place of business.

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You just make sympathy for him like you did with me.

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On your friends.

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Good way to lose friends, non-influenced people.

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I think he's got perfect rights to do it if he wants to.

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What's wrong with it?

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Is it different from any other citizen?

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I guess a whole lot of you fellas are going to endorse him.

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Did you endorse a candidate when you were president?

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Yes, I did.

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His name was Adley Stevenson.

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Did you endorse him again, sir?

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We'll wait and see about that.

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He has announced that he's a candidate yet.

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How do you feel about Mr. Simonson?

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I think it was a proper thing for him to do.

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If he's going to run for president, he's got to announce it sometime.

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He's got to announce that he wins by a big victory in the campaign he's made.

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If he will, what will that do in your candidate?

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How do you know he's my candidate?

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I haven't announced it for anybody.

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You're putting words in my mouth that haven't come out of it yet.

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Would you like to make out and enter a primary with the president?

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No, I don't.

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I advise him not to do it.

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And I advise all the rest of them not to do it too.

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Just like I told you a while ago, I don't think they amount to anything.

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Except for you to talk about it.

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What is your attitude towards the handicap that a Catholic has such as for elections to the presidency?

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I've never admitted that there wasn't any such handicap.

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The only handicap for in that situation is the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

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If you haven't read it, you better read it.

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A man's otherwise qualified as religion oughtn't to enter into a campaign for the presidency of the United States.

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And I've said that all over the United States.

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I'm saying it again here for your benefit.

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I'd like to put them aside.

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Somebody asked me a question?

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I'm in favor of Senator Kennedy.

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Well, if Senator Kennedy continues to win in primaries, Mr. President, don't you think that's going to give him an overwhelming advantage?

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Well, now, if you want to be a political pollster and a prophet, that's your business, not mine.

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The Democratic National Convention will decide who the candidate will be.

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And I'm anticipating being present at that convention.

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I can't tell you yet.

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The Missouri Convention hasn't met and they elect the delegates in the convention.

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I have never seen it have any value yet.

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Yes.

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You know when the first dark horse was?

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No.

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When James K. Polk was nominated.

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And Polk came out.

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And he was only elected once.

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And that is by the Chicago Tribune on the day of the election.

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I don't see the parallels.

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They're just exactly in the same line that you're talking about.

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You fellas have made up your mind that somebody's going to be president and you're not going to be convinced until you're convinced by the election.

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And that's the way you all are.

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Mr. Truman, would you care to discuss the other possible Democratic candidates for Senator Johnson?

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Yes, I know all of them and I like every single one of them.

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It's been my privilege to introduce them at various places.

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They're all good men.

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And it's a wonderful thing that the Democratic Party can produce so many able and competent candidates.

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And the Republicans can only produce one.

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And I don't think he's confident.

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So there you are.

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Can you give us your estimate of the major campaign?

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What the major issue is?

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That's the way the former president reacted to today's questioning in Chicago.

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Now back to John Bailey in New York.

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Let's try it once more.

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Keep it rolling.

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Keep it rolling, will you, Tony?

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That's the way the former president reacted to today's questioning in Chicago.

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Now back to John Bailey in New York.

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Now that's good.

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Thanks.

