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Today, the Catholic Hour offers the first in a series of programs on Catholic child

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guidance, which will be presented by Sister Alice Francis of the Sisters of St. Joseph

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and Assistant Professor of Child Study at St. Joseph's College for Women in Brooklyn,

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How many times have you mothers and dads listened to that request? At bedtime or

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when driving in the family car and by all means when something particularly pressing

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engaged your full attention. Teachers have heard this appeal too. Children gather around

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a storyteller in a way that casts a spell over a classroom. I am going to tell you a

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story. Its title is Child Guidance, not a tale of what we have come to call juvenile

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delinquency, nor is it to be a recounting of the scientific studies of child behavior.

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This series on Catholic Hour TV aims to tell the story of those children you have with

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you in your own home, growing and learning from day to day. Child guidance, why? Three

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reasons. One, the nature of the child. Two, well, the role of parents, their job within

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the family. And three, the two worlds of which our youngsters are citizens and the

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kingdom of heaven. Preschool children need a wholesome environment. These youngsters

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that we will see require for play, activity, space, companionship and supervision. Rolling

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down the hill is quite active, but tensions are also released. Even new skills are practiced.

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These children often tell us that they feel better and are much nicer people after a turn

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on the hill. More intense reactions sometimes. Danny is upset, but he is living with his

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problem. He's not doing much about it right now, but pretty soon here we see that he's

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feeling better about it all. Danny is relieved from pressure. What next? From Gunther. It's

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hard to stand by sometimes when the struggle for achievement continues. These children

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think they're having a parade. Will taking turns be the solution? They all want the drum

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today. Quiet times too have their place in child time play. What wonder and questions

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are forming in Joan's mind? Social learnings too have their place in the busy preschool

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day. These youngsters are really not playing together, just near each other. Watching these

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children in their everyday play has introduced you to some of the phases of the nature of

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the child. Their activity, striving and unpredictability. Questions arise. Should traffic regulations

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be enforced on that hill? Is that kind of play more within the three year old's interest

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or would you say it has to do with five year old skills? And how are we going to get through

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to Danny? Will he feel better about it next time? As we move together into a study of

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child guidance, be aware of the many sided nature of the causes of child behavior. Do

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not be looking for one right reason for what happens, nor aim at pat answers. Why this

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child does this or that. Try to think as a scientist does. Gather up all the facts, then

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make a good guess as to why these facts are in the picture and then test your guess by

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looking some more. Our second point refers to the role of the parents. If you reject

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both extreme measures of child guidance, you are well on the way of practicing the middle

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road, effective guidance of children. If you depend on using your superior brains and brawn,

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doing all the thinking and dominating all the choosing for children, for instance making

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them walk chalk lines for turns on the hill, then you are being authoritarian. If the other

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extreme comes into practice where you look over in Danny's direction and say, my, he

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can't help it, he's just like his father, then Danny is being indulged. Or you can indulge

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Louise by letting her take those mud pies into the house to decorate the living room

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table. We will not be resourceful with children if we are authoritarian as their leaders and

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neither will they ever achieve responsibility if we neglect to lay out for them the limits

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to what they may do. Effective guidance develops self-control, helping them to have better

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relationships with other people and in the end fostering good citizenship and righteousness.

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Environmental conditions today do not always help us in our job of child guidance. Our

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consideration of the two worlds in which our children live. One world that we come

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face to face with can be remembered as having of its part three C's. First C, crowding in

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our homes and neighborhoods eliminates the real poise and prayer and serious habits of

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work and study so necessary for growing children. Another C, companionship. You know there are

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companions of our children less wisely guided than our own that seem to militate against

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anything like a united family policy taking shape in our homes. And the last C, crime

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thrillers on TV and on the radio and in the movies and in the comic books can disturb

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the sleep that children so badly need and also introduce confused concepts of life and

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conduct unless our entertainment is carefully screened. The second world in which our baptized

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children are citizens is the world of the supernatural. The world of the spirit because

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it is less tangible is very often neglected and who can say but that some of our children

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may see the bright wings and feel the warm breast of the Holy Spirit who as Hopkins says

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over the bent world broods. This is the beginning of the story. On this series in Catholic Child

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Guidance we hope to talk to you some more about the nature and the needs of children,

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parent child relationships, methods of discipline or effective handling of children so that

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you can act on principles and not depend on pat answers in your guidance. Let's look

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today at individual differences as they appear with youngsters together in a school. Last

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year one day our group of preschool children was discussing God. We got into this serious

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matter through many other former discussions when children met together enjoying the social

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give and take of conversation and an opportunity to have their say. The following comments

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were fairly typical of meeting time in preschool. David, a four year old contributed, God is

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a good person. He makes things grow and goes with you every time. Woody, his playmate,

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added, God gives everybody babies, puts out the sun and the rain. Five year old Michael

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awed at his own contemplation of divinity said, gee, God could even lift the Empire

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State Building. And our Claire whispered, God is so pretty. Yes, these children were telling

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us what they thought about God, but they were also teaching teacher about themselves. Each

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one of these reactions came about because each child is a person and he was speaking

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in his own right and from what in God he had been impressed. Their comments showed the

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children's awareness of and interest in activity, change, achievement. We also caught overtones

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of the child's need for security and affection. You know, right now in childhood, God has

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a place in their thoughts and hearts. He belongs along with their interests and daily experiences.

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Children come to a knowledge and a love of God as they play and as they ask questions

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and particularly when they imitate the example of God fearing and God loving people. And

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no two of these children do this in exactly the same way. David, child artist as he is,

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is comfortable with the thought that God is a good person. David has begun to understand

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the how of living, that some things are good and therefore that they should be done. Goodness

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is imputed to God. He has learned that that is God's way. He thinks God is wonderful

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too. He makes things grow and if you knew David as I knew David, you know that he meant

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that little boys grow into daddies, puppies grow into companionable mascots, seeds grow

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into fields of daisies. This little fellow likes people. At school we often hear him

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speak about mother and daddy and the baby brother of his nicknamed house breaker John.

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And with the final touch of the artist's brush, David paints into his everyday living how

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nice it is to have God go with you every time. Woody is a boy who gets things done. He appreciates

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God as the great achiever who in his almighty work day puts out the sun and the rain. David

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illustrates the craftsman which we can observe in so many children. Children are busy people,

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especially if they are in tune with their environment and at ease with the adults around

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them. The tools of their craft are their eyes and their ears and their hands, particularly

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that great gift of language which helps them tell us what they think and feel about their

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products. As good craftsmen do, children toss away what they find to be unsuitable in their

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products, therefore shedding or laying by unmeaningful or immature efforts. Adults then

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should not always hammer away at children expecting them to make the same mistake or

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leave children to their own devices, nor leave them without blueprints, those signposts on

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the way of adjustment which help these people to grow. Happiness depends on an atmosphere

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of firm and consistent yet warm and affectionate guidance. So God can lift the Empire State

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Building. Michael has a flair for the dramatic, doesn't he? Dramatizing the visible world,

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reaching from the here and the now into the realm of abstract, though nonetheless real,

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experience. At three years, a boy can visit with his daddy by saying, why, why, why? At

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four years, he dramatizes and pushes back the frontiers of his own experience when he

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plays engineer or takes off his favorite TV entertainer. At five, he wonders how they

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made the Empire State Building. And so these children learn, taking part in life, participating

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as well as learning in a secondary way from conversation, books, and teachers. And Claire,

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God is so pretty. How many of us wish we could recapture the charm of childhood with its

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simplicity, its glow of liking things and enjoying the passing present moment, being

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quiet and calling it good? To bring children into their roles of artist, craftsman, and

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actor, the job of education is to begin at the point where these children are operating,

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to begin where they are. Rich living has its beginning in the four freedoms of childhood.

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Freedom, to be happy with God, with adults and their ways, with things that are interesting,

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wholesome, and safe. Security then is the frame of reference which helps our children

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to stretch into maturity. Freedom, to learn, to experience the beauty of life. And so,

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to experience many things, to become oriented into what is expected of them and what will

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happen as a result of nonconformity. Belongingness sweetens the cup of learning. To create freedom

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to express the many things that they have been impressed by. Freedom to enjoy the things

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they enjoy. To use, neither to abuse nor misuse, persons, places, and things. Remember the

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Davids who like good persons, the Woodies who have so much to learn, the Michaels who reach

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as high as the Empire State Building while their hearts are strong for the things of

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the spirit and the Claire's who have an affectionate need. As special guests today, we have with

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us the NBC News commentator, Mr. Frank Blair and his wife Lillian.

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Good afternoon, sister.

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Good afternoon. I understand that you folks have a particular interest in our series on

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child guidance.

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Well, we certainly do, sister. I think we have seven good reasons for interest in it.

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See, you remind me of my dad. He never goes anywhere without one of these.

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Thank you, sister. Now, as Mrs. Blair and I listened and watched throughout the past

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few minutes, we noted some questions that occurred to us, if you don't mind. First of

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all, this ideal of self-expression, sister, isn't this actually the same thing as leaving

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the child to his own devices?

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We hear that so very often. No, leaving the child to his own devices yields spoiled children

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and we think of it as the indulgent method of child guidance. Sometimes it can become

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a serious problem. For instance, rejection of children has its basis, often, in the guilt

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that parents experience because they have left the child to its own devices and not

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being able to face that, that their job of rearing the child has become so very difficult,

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they feel that the hands-off policy is the very best one. On the contrary, when we speak

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of self-expression, we're thinking particularly of the child's abilities, talents, even those

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developmental tasks that he's busy about learning day by day.

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Now, these developmental tasks, sister, do they follow a particular pattern?

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Yes. Children are expected to be doing certain things at certain times. They have their time

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schedules, too. At one and a half, we expect the baby to be busy about toddling. When he's

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three, we expect him to be asking questions. We call them chatterboxes. By the time they're

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five, saints preserve us. They're just wild with running and shouting and enjoying big

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motor activity.

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We've had that experience.

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Well, sister, all family groups are not alike. How do we get a blueprint for our particular

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family situation?

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You've been looking for a blueprint.

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Indeed I have, sister.

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We hear this so very often in talking to mothers and dads. You know, when Mrs. Blair talks

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to the neighbor next door, she probably picks up some new plans and new devices, and I imagine

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you dedicate yourself to that kind of thing for about a week to try to find out if we

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can succeed using somebody else's technique of child guidance. You know, desiring the

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blueprint is the first stage, but you can do better than that. For years now in this

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country, child experts have been building in and compiling lots of information that

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has come about from a scientific study of children through their reports and their investigations,

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even control studies. And these things are now made available. For instance, in California,

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there is a growth study in process which will grant us knowledge about children right up

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through the age level. And in Rochester, Minnesota, the youngsters that are born are

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being studied for a period of 20 years. We ought to have many facts and build up a fund

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of information gradually that people can find and apply.

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Are these results available, sister, in printed form?

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Yes, and I hope during this series to send out a list of books that will, particularly

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in the area of Catholic child guidance, give people a start on the materials that have

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been coming on the market to help them do a better, more enlightened job of child guidance.

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Of course, we have to apply these things, and it's up to the school teachers and the

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lay people and parents in the home to understand better and then to give the children the scope

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that they need to grow.

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Well, sister, you tell us to be warm and affectionate with our children, but not to indulge them.

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What is the middle of the road in this policy?

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Say, let me use this seesaw a minute. The middle of the road policy, of course, is the

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one that we're looking for. If an adult is very authoritarian with children, she will

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rise up high like this, and of course the child becomes submerged into a submissive

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character. This child can't think or plan. He can't work toward any kind of experimentation

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to find what mistakes he's made or how to do a thing better. On the contrary, if the

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adult gives up and goes way, way down on the seesaw, there's a child left alone up in the

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stratosphere, maybe feeling rejected, feeling completely uncharted, and not too comfortable.

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Now what we hope to be able to work out for children in the methods of warmth is that

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we recognize that these youngsters have needs. The need is to work through in a permissive

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atmosphere their dependence upon adults. For instance, if our way up here, alone in Times

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Square at night, for instance, I'd be rather confused. I need somebody to show me around.

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Children also, besides needing this warmth, have to have stretching room. They have to

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be able to grow up toward maturity in a gradual way. And I think by now we see that it's up

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to us to give them guidance so that the culture won't come in and lash against their immaturity.

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Sister, what about the old adage that children should be seen but not heard?

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I think you're saying that we don't want to be bothered by children. And you know, school

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teachers feel that way sometimes too. Being not bothered, I see as a result rather than

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an aim in education. We're not bothered about with children if they're well adjusted. For

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instance, let's take a hypothetical family. Over here we have family A. The children came

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into the home when they were wanted and they're expected. They receive good guidance, not

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only for their mental needs, which we often consider the job to help them learn, but also

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their physical and emotional, moral, spiritual, social needs are being met. There is a consistency.

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The child expects what he's going to hear in the home. He knows what will happen when

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he does not conform. This child, you say, can grow up in an atmosphere where he will

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become well adjusted. And I'd like to say he probably doesn't bother his parents too

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much. Then of course, and we all have met this type of family and it means that we get

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together and talk like this because it is such a problem. Here's family B. There is

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an inconsistency in the guidance. You might say it's haphazard. Every man for himself.

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The children here are told on Sunday, and you know how important Sunday afternoons are

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in family living, they're told on Sunday that Aunt Tessie is coming to visit. So they want

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the child to either say a poem or play the piano or show off in some way. They do and

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think that this is what's expected of them. Comes Tuesday night and dad is awfully tired

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and something particularly interesting is coming up on his TV program. The child is

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told, go away. Don't bother me. Now a youngster like that doesn't know exactly what's a mishap

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and therefore it's pretty hard for him to grow up within a good atmosphere. We have

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to be career parents and get across to our own children that we're going to try to be

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more consistent and at the same time feel free to have them be with us many times when

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we're so busy. Well how then can we plan to have children assume their legitimate role

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in the family home without overturning our whole lives to them? I can appreciate what

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you mean there. And in talking this over I have found it's helpful if we sort of get

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a little catechism together. First that parents have to agree. Mothers and dads should agree

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on the hours of retiring, choice of companions, allowances, spending money, the kind of thing

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that entertainment brings be it movies or comics or TV programs. In other words there

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are some musts. Secondly or be in our catechism, every child should understand what is expected

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of him and also should expect that when he doesn't conform certain things are going to

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happen. We protect children against themselves in this way. Thirdly that in a matter of,

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it is a matter of justice to encourage children. Now here I'm talking about rewards but I

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don't want you to think you have to pay everybody for doing things around the home. But can't

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we appreciate that children like ourselves are fighting the world and the flesh and the

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devil and when they do a pretty good job about it let's praise them and reward them and let

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them know that we know it's a hard job and that they're doing very well. Another little

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word on that, sometimes parents should build up into their vocabularies encouraging statements

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that bring about cooperation in children. Just let me say this tiny little bit more,

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instead of being negative let's be positive and say I know you're trying or it was a mistake

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wasn't it you'll do better next time. That kind of thing I don't think we can stress

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enough. Then to the child this would be success but what about the parent-sister? Seems to

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me we've been striving for success for about 20 years. Let's make it 15 or 13 it's hard

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to believe. Success is relative. A one year old boy is expected to be a baby. A four or

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five year old boy is having success and he is successful. When he's hammering he can

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get that nail to go right through a piece of wood. Children when they're painting sometimes

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are successful when they don't paint. Even sometimes children can be successful in playing

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Santa Claus. Well thank you sister we hope that next week you'll let us visit with you

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again and help us solve some more of our problems. Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Blair for being with

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us today and it's our hope that your interest in our problem clinic will be reflected on

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the home front. Today we have brought to you three prominent ideas on child guidance. First

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concerning the nature of the child. That the child is active though an immature learner.

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We have tried to show you that parents should not be indulgent nor should they be authoritarian

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in their methods of handling children. And lastly and quite importantly that we adults

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as well as children are citizens of both the kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of earth.

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We see each child as an individual person moving and growing in his own pace and into

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his own level of maturity. Next week we shall continue our study through baptism that great

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potential in children and develop some other valuable methods of child guidance. Next week

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too I hope to give you ten commandments for parents. Until next week may God be with you

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and with your children. Today the Catholic Hour has presented the first in a series of

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four programs on child guidance featuring Sister Alice Francis of the Sisters of St.

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Joseph. If you would like a copy of today's Catholic Hour TV Washington 5 D.C. That's

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Catholic Hour TV Washington 5 D.C. The Catholic Hour is produced by the National Council of

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Catholic Men. Join us next week when Sister Alice Francis will demonstrate tactile guidance

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with special emphasis on the theological virtues of faith, hope and charity. Your answer Don

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Pardo.

