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I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can help you.

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I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can help you.

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I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can help you.

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I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can help you.

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I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can help you.

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When was the last time you had a good checkup?

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Last year.

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It's about a year ago?

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Have you had any problems during the last year?

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No.

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You've been feeling up until this nosebleed is pretty good?

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In this country today there's 721 white people for each white physician.

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And there are 3800 people for each black physician.

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And we must begin to close that gap by producing black physicians.

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We'll go in a minute, okay?

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Sure.

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We have to, I think, impress upon the students that there is a need in the profession for black physicians.

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There's a need for black paramedical people.

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There's a need for black midwives.

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There's a need for black nurses.

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And we need people in order to carry out the program that we have to carry out.

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We're asking students to understand that they are being taken seriously.

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And they are wanted in medical schools and in other professional schools.

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What worries me is how real is this opening?

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Is it going to go on?

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Is it going to be a one and two year thing?

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Will we be able to maintain a pressure at a high enough level, both from the black community and the white community,

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to keep insisting that we need more black people in the professions and more particularly in medicine?

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The needs of having black people who can communicate with sick black people in the ghetto.

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We need it terribly and we've got to make sure that the medical schools recognize how much they owe the black community

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to provide them with the opportunity to be in a medical school.

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What is it that really people need throughout the entire world, but for somebody to deal with four or five primary things?

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The elimination of hunger, poverty, disease and ignorance.

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Those are manmade. Those are social diseases, you see, which any institution could be about the business of dealing with.

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Particularly if it talks about affirming the health of any given community or society.

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So the doctors can't just say that, you know, I'm a doctor and so I'm not a politician.

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Hell, he's got to be a doctor, a politician, everything else.

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He's got to be able to be a social force trying to bring about social change in a society which goes through a whole lot of socialization

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to maintain the status quo.

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And that's good health.

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That enough?

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We've got to show him also that there's a need in these health professions for this individual.

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I think one of the things that we sort of miss out is all individuals, those that are here and those that are not here,

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have felt sometime in their life that they wanted to do something.

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Well, here in medicine there's no doubt that a black student who graduates from a medical or dental school can do something.

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Let me look at your eyes.

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You have such pretty eyes, you know.

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Your mouth.

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Missing something?

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What are you missing?

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Teeth.

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Okay, Victoria.

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We have two programs designed here at the University, in medicine and dentistry,

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to see if we can find the potential good black mind, bring him in and reinforce it.

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Where's your last name?

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McClain.

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McClain?

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Where do you live?

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1542.

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20, 15?

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14.

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14?

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Northwest?

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What school are you in?

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Kindergarten, me too.

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What grade are you in?

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I'm in her kindergarten.

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What school are you in?

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First?

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Is that your mother?

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Thank you.

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This is McClain, I'm Dr. Davis.

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We're getting some information concerning Victoria.

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How old is Victoria?

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Five.

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Five or six.

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Is she...

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Was there any problems with her?

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Any difficulty when she was born?

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No difficulty at all.

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How about the mumps and the German measles vaccine?

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Yes, she had those.

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Okay, I want you to lie down, okay?

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I'm not scared of doctors, are I?

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Hmm?

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Go to your school.

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What is the name of your school?

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Westerl.

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Westerl?

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What grade are you in this school?

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I'm in her kindergarten.

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Kindergarten.

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You like your school?

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Yes.

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You have a lot of friends there?

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Yes.

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How many brothers you have?

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Four.

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And sisters?

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Are they older or younger?

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Who's the baby in the house?

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China.

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We have a baby.

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Here, watch.

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John?

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Okay.

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That's a good girl.

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I think basically what we're saying when we talk about recruiting

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is to get more blacks into the health profession.

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Period.

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All methods.

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Although it's certainly going to be a big problem, but all schools,

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not only Howard and Meharry.

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Go over here. Keep looking at the finger.

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Yeah, very cooperative, very good girl.

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You know you're a very good girl?

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Who told you that?

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Your mommy.

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Your mommy? And how about your school teacher?

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What does she think?

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Very good.

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She said she lost her years when she grows up.

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Why don't you change her mind?

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She wants to be a mom.

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You can be a boy, right?

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Right.

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We have the burden on us of showing these other 95 schools

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how to recruit black students.

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And not just go out and get them and let them flunk out

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and say that we brought them here,

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but teach them how to keep them in,

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how to motivate these students.

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And I think we are moving towards the end

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of establishing workshops, teaching methods

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for other white schools, telling them how to bring in black professionals

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and how to keep them as such.

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So they recruit them and then we try to measure, test,

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find the potential, bring the students in,

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reinforce them,

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realizing that they have some weaknesses,

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but also realizing that four years hence

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when we graduate them, they will be as fine

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a physician, a dentist as any.

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I think one of the problems with recruitment is that

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I can't emphasize enough that blacks,

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young blacks, have to see

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black professionals.

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And in many neighborhoods that you go into

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in which there's a significant

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black population, there are no black professionals.

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So when you talk about recruiting

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and talking about taking someone from that neighborhood

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and making a black professional out of

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this particular person, he doesn't know

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or she doesn't know what you're talking about.

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The only thing that they've seen

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thus far are white professionals.

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Most of the hospitals that you go to

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in this country today have no black physicians

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as interns or residents.

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And those few

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that are accepting black

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interns

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now are in such short number

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simply because there's not enough blacks to go around.

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Everybody wants their little black intern

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because of a number of reasons.

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But we've got to show these kids

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that there are such a thing as a black professional.

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And this is I think one of the big hang ups

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in recruitment, where are the black professionals?

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And I think the students should

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find them and talk to them like the other day.

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The hospital admission of this

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59 year old negro male

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who was presented with chief complaint

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of abdominal pain, nausea,

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vomiting, leachness, hemodemesis,

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swelling of the legs and hands

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and necrotic eyes.

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He admires to drinking approximately

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one kind of alcohol daily

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and smokes approximately

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a pack of cigarettes every day.

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This has been on the period of many years.

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How long have you been drinking heavily?

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Every day?

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What do you mean by heavily?

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I mean, I mean

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I first came out of the army.

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I've been drinking.

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That's when you started. How old are you now?

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69. When did you come out of the army?

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I came out in 45.

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In 44 years you've been drinking heavily.

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I've been drinking.

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And what's the quantity of it?

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Here before the black professional has not been something that a lot of us now

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would be particularly proud of

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in terms of where his set of values is.

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over the past few years

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and with the set of medical students, dental students that we're turning out now

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it's a particular type of thought

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who can go out and relate

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to the now young man in the street

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who possibly wouldn't want to be one of the

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Cadillac driving, slick-haired

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old positions of the past

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and not provide any service.

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And I think this is very important that when they

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see young black professionals now, I think the image is

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different. It's something more that they can identify with

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both in terms of not only appearance

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but in terms of aspirations, goals

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and desires. And I think we must instill this

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in our own students that we have now.

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And when we bring in a young black student now, don't let him turn.

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Don't let him get all

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money crazy because our people don't have money.

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We have to deal with other systems than just money.

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Maybe goods and services or something.

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I think this is very significant about what we do with our students.

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Well, there's

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a phony atmosphere of tension that

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surrounds the health profession.

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It's supposed to be so

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difficult and some schools

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make it very difficult. But I think that

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for the high school students who will be

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seeing this film, that they ought to

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speak personally with black

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medical students and find

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out exactly what it's like.

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And I think that many of them would

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benefit from

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conversations with people who

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have actually lived with the situation

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and know what it's all about

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because there's no reason

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why a black student

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should be refused

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admission to a medical school

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or dental school simply because he

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did not perform well on an

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aptitude test which included questions

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on Broadway and plays

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written by Joe Jalofsky.

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That just doesn't happen

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to be us. And so we fall

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down on the aptitude test, the medical

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aptitude test where they ask

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the question the year I took it,

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what was the latest play

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on Broadway? Well, I don't know. Ask me something

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about James Brown or Reatha Franklin.

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You know, and then I know what's happening.

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And if I don't know that, then I'm not anywhere.

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I'm neither black nor white.

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One of the things that has kept

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black people out of dentistry

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here to pour

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beside financial consideration

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has been the fact that we have imposed

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between our people and professional

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schools what we consider

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invalid tests of ability

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and these being the standardized tests

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that are administered in the form of the

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medical college admissions test and the dental aptitude

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test. So going on this premise

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that black people cannot be

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measured in terms of capability and ability

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by these tests.

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We selected some 21

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black students

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who had not fared so well on

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this test and admitted them

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into the college of dentistry.

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We thought also that it

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might be well to

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take students

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and to give them what we call

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what would be called academic reinforcement

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in which they would be exposed

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to several areas back at the mission.

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And our rate of success I think we are

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all particularly pleased with.

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If this comes out statistically

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like it has so far

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at the end of the year, I think the program can be expanded

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and we will have a model

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that can serve as something that we hope to

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project nationwide and put black

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people in school and stop hanging them up with all these

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little tests that don't mean anything

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about their capabilities. I think

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when you talk to some of these students you can see that

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they'll turn out to be some of the best professionals you've ever seen.

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I was teaching

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at first.

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And it's not what I wanted

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at all, teaching.

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I wanted to go into some medical profession

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but my score wasn't

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high enough on

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the national exams.

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I don't know what

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to attribute this to. It might have been my

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well, my fault.

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But I don't think it was. I

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considered myself a pretty good student.

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I just don't see what it was

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because it's when I compare myself

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with some of the students here already

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now, I know that

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I'm just as good and in some

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particular instance it's better.

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I know this.

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I think I took the exam five times.

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And each

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time it didn't get any better. I was really getting

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to the point where I was getting disgusted.

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And then some of the academic reinforcement programs came along.

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I even said to myself

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when I ended the program that I wouldn't do

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any better on exams. But that

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proved to be false also.

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The academic reinforcement

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you passed exams? Yes.

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And I

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had at least five times more than that.

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If a student

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right now wants to go to medical school

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does not

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have to be a genius.

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He does not have to have

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let's say

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well, if he's willing to

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work hard, if he's got average

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intelligence, he can make it.

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But what he needs really is a certain

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amount of information as to where are the doors.

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It's one thing to open a

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door by turning a knob. It's another to knock

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a door down to get through. But you've got to know

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where the door is before you can get the darn thing.

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Well I said yes, I want to go to college.

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I want to be a doctor.

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The teacher looked at me and said well aren't you

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in the wrong field? Don't you have

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something else in mind? Can't you be a teacher

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or a gym, anything, but

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a doctor. Black people have been

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pushed away

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from the profession by high school

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counselors. In fact, last

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year

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we spoke with some students who had

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considered going into medicine

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and they finally came into college.

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And they were told that

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it was too difficult to get through the pre-medical

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curriculum in college

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so that they could forget about

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medicine. I'm sure much of it is

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well-meant counseling.

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The people who tell

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this are sincere that you don't have

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a chance, face reality, take another

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career. But it's simply not true.

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And this is where the education has

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to go all the way back down the line.

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That in fact the black student

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can get into medical school.

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That in fact there is no

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reason for him not to pursue that

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career.

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The exact logistics of

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how to do it may not be available

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to him. And this is where they need an

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avenue to find it out. It's been my

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opinion most of the time.

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Most medical schools felt that the burden

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of the information was

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up to the applicant to seek out. And

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most of the time

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all the schools

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that I've ever received any

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information from, I've had to write

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and request information from that school.

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And the initial

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information that you

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may receive comes from a counselor

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or a professor would you

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admire or

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or even a guy that

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that you might have met in school

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who applied to a medical school

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the year before, it's

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word of mouth. We receive

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any active recruitment from any medical

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school in the country when I was

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an undergraduate.

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What do you do when

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you got information that you don't like?

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For example if somebody says, look face

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up to it, it's impossible to get

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into competition drop and all that

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overblowning. And why don't you just face

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reality and take another career?

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This really happened to me.

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How did you know the best card?

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Well,

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I hate to say this but I just

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considered it a source.

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What are you here for today?

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For

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high blood pressure. High blood pressure?

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Yeah. Okay.

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Have you been taking anything

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for your blood pressure? Yeah.

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Have you felt better since you've been taking it?

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You haven't felt any better?

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No.

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Do you still take the medicine? Yeah.

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Now, have you ever tried not taking the medicine?

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Yeah. And when you don't take it, do you have

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dizziness and glomerulism? That's why I know it's

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the medicine. That's why you know it's the medicine?

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Mm-hmm. Did you take your medicine

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today? No.

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You didn't take it today? Did you take it

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yesterday? Mm-hmm. You didn't take it yesterday?

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Did you take it the day before? Yes.

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When's the last time you've taken your medicine?

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I didn't take it this week at all.

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You didn't take it this week at all? What about last week?

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I've taken it once last week.

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Once last week?

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Then?

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No wonder you're sick.

447
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You're going to start taking your medicine again.

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Huh?

449
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Mm-hmm.

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We're going to give you some different medicine, but

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you're going to have to start taking your medicine again.

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Before the pressure's too high.

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It's too what?

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It's too high. Oh.

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That's higher than it's ever been.

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When they gave you that medication,

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I'm talking to you very soon.

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When they gave you that medication,

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they gave it for you to take.

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You've got to take it.

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Don't ever stop taking it.

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So I want to be a doctor, not because there's a

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demand for black doctors,

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but it's a field that I was interested in.

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And I will always be

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interested in medicine no matter what.

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And I don't feel as if anybody has to guide me

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that way. I don't feel as if I'm going to be

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stopped. I'm going to be a black

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doctor no matter what.

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And that's the way I feel all students should feel today.

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That nobody's going to be in their way if they

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really want to do anything. If anyone

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wants to accomplish anything, they'll do it.

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And no guidance teacher or

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dean of admissions to any college

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can tell you what you're not going to do.

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I came from a family

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who could not financially afford to see

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you, and the counselor couldn't tell you anywhere

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the rights of money

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or anything like that. And the only outlook

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was that, alright, if you were an

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age student, sure you may have got a few scholarships,

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but how many age students are in a class?

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You may have one or two.

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So if you're an average student sitting down in the middle

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of the group, you have no advice from

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anybody to tell you anything.

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You just have to have a determination

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to do something. And so like I did, I'd say, well,

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if I can't get any money from anywhere,

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I'll just work in the summer

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and try to make enough money to pay tuition.

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And I get there, I'll try to get me a job

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up on the campus.

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Some way I worked as a secretary for

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different professors and things like that.

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No one had told me

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anything about, you know, you can write off

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and get money through different places.

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So don't let that be a hang up

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about that finance. If you

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want to go, you go.

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When you get there, you face those other bridges

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when you get there. You try to get you enough money

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in the summertime to try to get that tuition.

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If you ever get there and get in

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and if you really want to be there,

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you won't stay. You have to worry about that.

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If you have to go to some professor showing

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and crying and say, Lord, you just got to give me this job.

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Let me type a couple of letters

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for you or something, you know.

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Don't let that be a hang up.

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And if your counselor isn't any of you see

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you, that, you know, don't

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let that get you over. You try

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to get there. Number one, get tight.

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And by tight, I mean academically tight.

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I mean, our people have often

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been subjected to half-baked

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treatment out of people who socialize

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through a professional school or something.

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We're not here saying that we don't want

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you to learn medicine. We don't want

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you to learn science. Academics are not

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important because they are.

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But we think that you must have considerable

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expertise to practice on

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our people. But what we are saying

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that when you decide that you

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take it with a dedication and we're here to help you

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and we're here to point out those points

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that will help our people. But don't

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by any stretch of the imagination

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take it. We're saying come to medical school

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if you've got commitment, if you've got concern

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that's always required. You have to develop

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your mind and that's very important.

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All right, now,

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deep breath.

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All right.

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All right. All right. All right.

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Keep it on. All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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There's so many outlets that you can have

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for medicine. You can be anything

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from a technician to one of the best surgeons

551
00:21:37.840 --> 00:21:39.600
to a heart specialist, anything.

552
00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:41.980
Things like x-ray technology.

553
00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:44.360
Technicians who work on

554
00:21:44.360 --> 00:21:46.160
blood chemistry, histology,

555
00:21:46.280 --> 00:21:46.860
pathology.

556
00:21:47.360 --> 00:21:49.300
There's all sorts of fields to open.

557
00:21:50.540 --> 00:21:52.080
We're going to need

558
00:21:52.080 --> 00:21:53.740
someone just to read our computers

559
00:21:53.740 --> 00:21:55.680
in the future as far as our

560
00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:57.160
diagnostic computers are.

561
00:21:57.980 --> 00:21:59.320
There's going to be a time

562
00:21:59.320 --> 00:22:01.560
when we're going to feed information

563
00:22:01.560 --> 00:22:03.940
into machines that we've

564
00:22:03.940 --> 00:22:04.700
gathered from patients.

565
00:22:08.180 --> 00:22:10.100
The instruments that you see

566
00:22:10.100 --> 00:22:11.160
in here are

567
00:22:12.980 --> 00:22:13.540
the

568
00:22:13.540 --> 00:22:15.360
all of the instruments that one would

569
00:22:15.360 --> 00:22:16.480
use in a hospital

570
00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:19.560
if he was going to follow

571
00:22:19.560 --> 00:22:21.400
a sick patient,

572
00:22:21.980 --> 00:22:23.440
let's say one that had a heart

573
00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:24.120
attack.

574
00:22:24.900 --> 00:22:26.680
Likewise, it's the kind

575
00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:28.500
of instrumentation that

576
00:22:28.500 --> 00:22:30.440
is used right

577
00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:32.080
now to follow

578
00:22:32.080 --> 00:22:34.360
what the heart is

579
00:22:34.360 --> 00:22:36.360
doing of the

580
00:22:36.360 --> 00:22:37.780
astronauts which are on the moon.

581
00:22:38.520 --> 00:22:40.500
Here we have a live

582
00:22:40.500 --> 00:22:41.280
animal

583
00:22:42.120 --> 00:22:43.880
which has about a week

584
00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:46.420
after he's had heart

585
00:22:46.420 --> 00:22:47.540
surgery where

586
00:22:48.120 --> 00:22:50.200
we've gone in, opened up his heart,

587
00:22:50.580 --> 00:22:52.220
put different things on it so he

588
00:22:52.220 --> 00:22:54.440
can follow how the heart works.

589
00:22:56.360 --> 00:22:58.240
All of this is just

590
00:22:58.240 --> 00:22:59.520
from one heartbeat.

591
00:23:01.760 --> 00:23:04.160
All that information we get from

592
00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:05.600
one single heartbeat.

593
00:23:06.460 --> 00:23:07.880
So you can see that

594
00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:10.160
there's a tremendous amount of information

595
00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:12.060
that comes out of studying

596
00:23:12.060 --> 00:23:14.240
the heart which you can only

597
00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:15.960
get by using

598
00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:16.760
a computer.

599
00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:20.360
It's a standard heart operation that

600
00:23:20.360 --> 00:23:22.180
has an absolute

601
00:23:22.180 --> 00:23:24.660
prognosis almost, 100 percent

602
00:23:24.660 --> 00:23:26.580
for repairing a

603
00:23:26.580 --> 00:23:28.440
defect that's a congenital defect.

604
00:23:29.940 --> 00:23:30.220
There are

605
00:23:30.220 --> 00:23:32.500
about 126 medical

606
00:23:32.500 --> 00:23:34.700
people that come in

607
00:23:34.700 --> 00:23:35.940
contact with that patient.

608
00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:38.220
This total procedure from the entrance

609
00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:40.340
to the front door of the hospital going through the

610
00:23:40.340 --> 00:23:42.120
clinic, the diagnostic workup,

611
00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:43.720
the surgery, the rehabilitation.

612
00:23:44.340 --> 00:23:46.460
There are only six MDs required

613
00:23:46.460 --> 00:23:48.400
in that whole entourage.

614
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.620
Yet that procedure is impossible

615
00:23:50.620 --> 00:23:52.540
to carry out and rehabilitate the patient.

616
00:23:52.780 --> 00:23:54.500
This means, for example, there are laboratory

617
00:23:54.500 --> 00:23:56.200
technicians who do lab studies,

618
00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:58.580
x-ray technicians who do x-ray studies,

619
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:00.500
the operating room technicians,

620
00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:01.900
the nurses involved,

621
00:24:02.760 --> 00:24:04.460
the people who monitor

622
00:24:04.460 --> 00:24:06.120
the sophisticated computer

623
00:24:06.120 --> 00:24:08.180
machines, the heart pump,

624
00:24:08.380 --> 00:24:09.960
the bypass operation,

625
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:12.580
then in the rehabilitation of the patient.

626
00:24:13.840 --> 00:24:14.780
There are a number of

627
00:24:14.780 --> 00:24:16.640
specialists in the physical

628
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:18.600
rehabilitation field involved there.

629
00:24:18.600 --> 00:24:21.080
But it's about 126 in that total team.

630
00:24:21.580 --> 00:24:22.940
Now there are certainly some students

631
00:24:23.540 --> 00:24:24.820
who would feel that they

632
00:24:24.820 --> 00:24:26.900
could go to medical technology school

633
00:24:26.900 --> 00:24:28.620
but might not feel that they could

634
00:24:28.620 --> 00:24:30.780
go through college and then into a professional

635
00:24:30.780 --> 00:24:32.660
school. And some of those who have even

636
00:24:32.660 --> 00:24:34.740
gone through college might feel for various reasons

637
00:24:34.740 --> 00:24:36.860
that they don't want really to

638
00:24:36.860 --> 00:24:38.660
become physicians, but that they

639
00:24:38.660 --> 00:24:40.360
would enjoy very much becoming

640
00:24:40.360 --> 00:24:42.520
extremely good technicians and running really

641
00:24:42.520 --> 00:24:43.700
first class laboratories.

642
00:24:43.700 --> 00:24:46.280
And I think

643
00:24:46.280 --> 00:24:48.100
this could be sold to them, particularly

644
00:24:48.100 --> 00:24:49.700
if they had a chance to come and see

645
00:24:50.360 --> 00:24:51.920
what goes on in a lab

646
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:54.240
and how it really contributes

647
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:55.820
to the care of the patient and so forth.

648
00:24:56.020 --> 00:24:57.980
Number one, when you speak of

649
00:24:57.980 --> 00:25:00.180
paramedical care, you also think of preventative

650
00:25:00.180 --> 00:25:01.680
medicine. And I think

651
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:03.920
if you've been in a hospital

652
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:06.220
or you've seen how a hospital works, the patient

653
00:25:06.220 --> 00:25:07.940
load, especially a charity hospital like

654
00:25:07.940 --> 00:25:09.920
we have here, or most hospitals

655
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:11.860
where black people go, the patient load is so

656
00:25:11.860 --> 00:25:13.820
tremendous that the patient can't

657
00:25:13.820 --> 00:25:15.980
receive adequate care. So if we had

658
00:25:15.980 --> 00:25:17.980
number one program of paramedicine

659
00:25:17.980 --> 00:25:19.800
wherein we could have community health centers

660
00:25:19.800 --> 00:25:22.120
where we could have primary health care out in the community.

661
00:25:22.420 --> 00:25:23.840
If we had preventative medicine that

662
00:25:23.840 --> 00:25:25.940
we taught, even at the level

663
00:25:25.940 --> 00:25:27.800
of youngsters in schools, then I think

664
00:25:27.800 --> 00:25:30.100
this would lessen the patient load at our hospitals

665
00:25:30.100 --> 00:25:31.960
and consequently we could provide our people

666
00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:33.540
with even basic better care there.

667
00:25:34.060 --> 00:25:35.800
If people find out that disease

668
00:25:35.800 --> 00:25:38.140
is a serious problem for a country,

669
00:25:38.600 --> 00:25:40.720
then the people, if it's only 10%

670
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.860
of the population, or if it's only 1%

671
00:25:42.860 --> 00:25:44.640
of the population that has knowledge about health,

672
00:25:45.020 --> 00:25:46.900
they have more responsibility to make

673
00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:48.860
the language understandable and take

674
00:25:48.860 --> 00:25:50.840
the mystique out of medicine, which is

675
00:25:50.840 --> 00:25:52.900
the jargon, which is the language, and

676
00:25:52.900 --> 00:25:54.740
make that information available to everybody.

677
00:25:55.060 --> 00:25:56.800
So the little boy, 10 years old, can

678
00:25:56.800 --> 00:25:58.880
start to understand how to recognize communicable

679
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:00.860
diseases and how to move about

680
00:26:00.860 --> 00:26:02.940
dealing with certain kinds of preventative kinds of things.

681
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.220
What it means is you engage everybody,

682
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:06.920
you see. No longer do you just look to

683
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:08.720
the talented tenth, you know,

684
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:10.680
but you start to work with people from every

685
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:12.780
strata, from every level, and you don't make

686
00:26:12.780 --> 00:26:14.600
class distinctions, but you recognize that

687
00:26:14.600 --> 00:26:16.800
information has got to be shared across the line

688
00:26:16.800 --> 00:26:18.980
so that the gap is closed

689
00:26:18.980 --> 00:26:20.840
by the sharing of information, data

690
00:26:20.840 --> 00:26:22.800
about one's life, so that when individuals

691
00:26:22.800 --> 00:26:24.500
can have the information, they don't have to call

692
00:26:24.500 --> 00:26:26.780
a committeeman, they don't have to call a politician,

693
00:26:26.980 --> 00:26:28.700
they don't have to call a doctor in paying

694
00:26:28.700 --> 00:26:30.840
10, 15, 20 dollars every time they think

695
00:26:30.840 --> 00:26:32.400
they've got a health problem,

696
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:34.480
but they can begin to start affirming each other.

697
00:26:34.580 --> 00:26:36.620
And blacks all over are now searching

698
00:26:36.620 --> 00:26:39.440
for that way of expression.

699
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:41.660
And in medicine you can do it.

700
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:42.900
You can do your thing in medicine.

701
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:44.540
Medicine you can really show,

702
00:26:44.940 --> 00:26:46.620
as they say, show your expertise, you can

703
00:26:46.620 --> 00:26:48.620
help people. You can show

704
00:26:48.620 --> 00:26:50.800
anybody, anywhere, that you're just as

705
00:26:50.800 --> 00:26:52.820
good as the next person, because here you practice

706
00:26:52.820 --> 00:26:54.480
an art. And

707
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.720
I think this is very

708
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:59.120
important to blacks, that they be able to

709
00:26:59.120 --> 00:27:00.240
realize their potential.

710
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:02.760
Educating all the people of America

711
00:27:02.760 --> 00:27:04.840
to be, you know, to have the same

712
00:27:04.840 --> 00:27:07.180
maturation point, I'm pretty close to it, I have the option

713
00:27:07.180 --> 00:27:09.040
that's not impractical, you know,

714
00:27:09.040 --> 00:27:10.960
it's a very, at this point it's

715
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.480
a desire, it's a notion,

716
00:27:12.800 --> 00:27:14.180
you know, it's a high hope.

717
00:27:14.700 --> 00:27:16.900
It only becomes practical when people start doing that.

718
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:18.740
Where does it start? The first individual

719
00:27:18.740 --> 00:27:21.020
who recognizes the need and who starts moving that

720
00:27:21.020 --> 00:27:23.040
way, what does he do? He becomes the model

721
00:27:23.040 --> 00:27:24.860
for all the individuals. And

722
00:27:24.860 --> 00:27:26.740
that's what I'm all about, with regard

723
00:27:26.740 --> 00:27:28.320
to my work, the kind of stuff I do.

724
00:27:28.700 --> 00:27:30.880
It doesn't matter whether I'm working at Temple Community Mental Health

725
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:32.960
or University of Pennsylvania Children's Hospital,

726
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:35.200
or working for the Bulletin, scrubbing floors,

727
00:27:35.260 --> 00:27:37.100
whatever, you don't have to have a particular

728
00:27:37.100 --> 00:27:39.020
title, you know, or a particular kind

729
00:27:39.020 --> 00:27:40.820
of job. There's only one function

730
00:27:40.820 --> 00:27:43.120
that is to gather information all the time

731
00:27:43.120 --> 00:27:45.100
and share it with people so that the elimination of hunger,

732
00:27:45.260 --> 00:27:46.680
disease, poverty, and ignorance,

733
00:27:47.580 --> 00:27:49.000
you know, you're constantly

734
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.080
about that kind of business. I think we need

735
00:27:51.080 --> 00:27:53.140
to impress upon the

736
00:27:53.140 --> 00:27:54.520
black high school student

737
00:27:54.520 --> 00:27:56.820
that the doctor, the physician,

738
00:27:57.020 --> 00:27:58.920
is not the only person

739
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.240
who can deliver health care

740
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:03.360
to our people. That the black

741
00:28:03.360 --> 00:28:05.280
community is in need of midwives,

742
00:28:05.980 --> 00:28:07.500
the black community needs

743
00:28:07.500 --> 00:28:09.680
nurses, we need

744
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:11.040
nurses' aids, nurses'

745
00:28:11.300 --> 00:28:13.020
assistants, physicians' aids,

746
00:28:13.320 --> 00:28:15.580
we need dentists, we need dental assistants,

747
00:28:15.600 --> 00:28:17.700
we need everybody who can contribute

748
00:28:17.700 --> 00:28:18.920
to the delivery

749
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.040
of health care to our people.

750
00:28:21.300 --> 00:28:23.620
And these students must not be

751
00:28:23.620 --> 00:28:25.460
deterred, they must not be

752
00:28:25.460 --> 00:28:26.980
hampered by black

753
00:28:26.980 --> 00:28:29.360
and white, I should say by negro

754
00:28:29.360 --> 00:28:31.540
and white people who claim

755
00:28:31.540 --> 00:28:33.500
that the profession is too high,

756
00:28:33.820 --> 00:28:35.380
too far away for

757
00:28:35.380 --> 00:28:37.640
little black kids to

758
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:39.500
get anything to do with. And I

759
00:28:39.500 --> 00:28:41.520
think that they should ignore anybody who

760
00:28:41.520 --> 00:28:43.740
tries to move them away from the profession.

761
00:28:44.040 --> 00:28:45.500
They must seek out people

762
00:28:45.500 --> 00:28:47.220
who are actually in the profession,

763
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.520
talk with them, have long

764
00:28:49.520 --> 00:28:51.320
conversations, and find out exactly

765
00:28:51.320 --> 00:28:53.700
how it is. It is filled with trauma,

766
00:28:53.980 --> 00:28:55.340
but there's not too much,

767
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.540
because black people have taken enough already, and I don't

768
00:28:57.540 --> 00:28:59.380
see why they can't stand medical school.

