WEBVTT 1 00:00:48.980 --> 00:00:49.540 The 2 00:00:49.540 --> 00:00:52.740 silent majority, they've got too many things on their mind. 3 00:00:53.180 --> 00:00:58.180 Paying their taxes, seeing that their kids are all right, not in trouble. 4 00:00:59.060 --> 00:01:02.440 They work real hard, maybe their wives are working too. 5 00:01:04.440 --> 00:01:06.640 And just being, just trying to stay out of trouble and 6 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:09.420 doing the right thing every day, day in and day out. 7 00:01:09.620 --> 00:01:14.700 Well, if there's anything to me that's a silent majority, it's a community like this. 8 00:01:14.820 --> 00:01:18.440 This is the common or ordinary community in the United States right here. 9 00:01:18.500 --> 00:01:21.640 This is, this is what the United States is. 10 00:01:21.660 --> 00:01:26.480 The people who have their security tied up in their property, 11 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:30.340 have, take pride in their property, take pride in their home. 12 00:01:30.700 --> 00:01:32.700 And this is what they work for, this is their life. 13 00:01:32.820 --> 00:01:36.420 So they are really silent because I feel that they, 14 00:01:36.420 --> 00:01:39.580 they just don't think that they can fight city hall in any way at all. 15 00:01:39.700 --> 00:01:43.020 They don't have any organization, no one to back them up and lead them. 16 00:01:44.240 --> 00:01:45.320 Is an Agnew that leader? 17 00:01:47.260 --> 00:01:49.440 Well, he's trying and that's why they're picking on him. 18 00:01:49.980 --> 00:01:52.440 He's trying to be the silent majority leader and 19 00:01:52.440 --> 00:01:53.440 nobody has been a chance. 20 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:55.220 I'm telling you, I can't believe this. 21 00:01:59.820 --> 00:02:02.740 See, nobody's saying that, that we're all silent majority here. 22 00:02:03.260 --> 00:02:04.300 Nobody wants to get involved. 23 00:02:05.540 --> 00:02:09.760 A lot of people say the same things, that they don't want to get involved until you, 24 00:02:09.760 --> 00:02:13.520 you play the right chord and then they're involved. 25 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:17.720 As long as it's somebody else's that goes, it doesn't bother you. 26 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:20.560 But when it's yours, it's a different story. 27 00:02:21.060 --> 00:02:25.000 I think the thing that gets me the maddest is when I hear 28 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:31.060 an announcer say on TV says only 68 of our men were killed this week. 29 00:02:31.440 --> 00:02:33.240 What do they mean 68? 30 00:02:34.720 --> 00:02:39.380 That's 68 families that are torn to pieces because their boys got hit or 31 00:02:39.380 --> 00:02:43.040 we just had a thousand or 1100 of our boys that were injured. 32 00:02:43.300 --> 00:02:44.560 What do they mean by injured? 33 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:46.660 An arm or a leg or an eye? 34 00:02:46.860 --> 00:02:47.860 Doesn't that count? 35 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:49.320 I'm a truck driver. 36 00:02:50.260 --> 00:02:51.440 I drive a semi dump truck. 37 00:02:52.260 --> 00:02:54.400 Actually, the war hasn't affected my job, but 38 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:59.760 I have children of 19 years old boys, 1918 and I'm deadly against it. 39 00:03:00.060 --> 00:03:04.180 I've just read Look Magazine and I read an article in there about a letter to 40 00:03:04.180 --> 00:03:10.140 the president and if a lot of people would look at these pictures of these 41 00:03:10.140 --> 00:03:13.940 poor guys that only got half a body or something or still there, it'd be really something. 42 00:03:14.380 --> 00:03:18.440 Maybe they ought to go over there and personally and take a look at some of this stuff. 43 00:03:18.440 --> 00:03:25.620 I've had a guy say to me if I had a gun or if I had a hand, I'd blow my brains out. 44 00:03:25.700 --> 00:03:27.180 But he says I can't even pull the trigger. 45 00:03:27.320 --> 00:03:31.460 We here on the side are very bitter about it because I think a lot of our boys, 46 00:03:32.600 --> 00:03:36.900 if you really take it down, have gone into the service. 47 00:03:37.180 --> 00:03:42.980 I mean, there are so many here you don't know about it, but you just talk and 48 00:03:42.980 --> 00:03:47.220 you will find out that there are an awful lot of boys from this neighborhood that 49 00:03:47.220 --> 00:03:48.340 have left for the service. 50 00:03:49.200 --> 00:03:50.660 Hey, Jack, you were there. 51 00:03:50.860 --> 00:03:54.320 You were there for, you got wounded three times, twice or whatever it was. 52 00:03:55.760 --> 00:03:57.300 Last time I got hit, I got hit in the head. 53 00:03:57.540 --> 00:03:59.980 We had 57 killed and 140 wounded. 54 00:04:00.260 --> 00:04:03.720 And my whole platoon was completely wiped out except for about three or four guys. 55 00:04:05.780 --> 00:04:07.160 And it's really strange. 56 00:04:07.180 --> 00:04:10.880 I went down to Indiana for my buddy's funeral, 57 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:12.700 cuz he was a real good friend of mine. 58 00:04:13.980 --> 00:04:16.620 And it's really to see it. 59 00:04:16.620 --> 00:04:20.020 What the people really go through when their son gets killed, 60 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:22.540 especially a favorite son, like he was the only son in the family. 61 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:25.720 You know, I went to a war, I didn't get killed. 62 00:04:26.700 --> 00:04:29.160 I'm back here, he was in a war, he didn't get killed. 63 00:04:30.700 --> 00:04:33.620 He had a son in a war, everybody doesn't get killed in a war. 64 00:04:46.620 --> 00:04:50.120 So we went in there, the stat, time isn't from spreading, 65 00:04:50.380 --> 00:04:53.140 because we said Southeast Asia is a strategic position. 66 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.420 This was the original intent of the United States. 67 00:04:56.760 --> 00:05:00.680 But now you see seven years later, all that is gone in the wayside. 68 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:02.980 And what have we but many lives that were lost, 69 00:05:03.340 --> 00:05:07.480 many main GIs that come back crippled for the rest of our life, okay? 70 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:09.660 And it's not like a war where, you know, World War II, 71 00:05:09.660 --> 00:05:11.600 where we won and that was it and it's all over. 72 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:15.040 Now, how do you think we're ever gonna disinvolve ourselves from Vietnam? 73 00:05:15.280 --> 00:05:15.720 Win it. 74 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.340 Yeah, but you can't win a war like that. 75 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:19.380 Who's paying for the war? 76 00:05:19.500 --> 00:05:19.940 We are. 77 00:05:20.200 --> 00:05:21.460 We are, that's right. 78 00:05:21.460 --> 00:05:22.040 We are. 79 00:05:22.300 --> 00:05:22.960 For what? 80 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:23.080 We're just paying. 81 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:24.100 That's right, for what? 82 00:05:24.140 --> 00:05:24.620 For what? 83 00:05:24.860 --> 00:05:25.700 Yeah, for what? 84 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:26.480 For what? 85 00:05:27.420 --> 00:05:28.460 Where's all the answers? 86 00:05:28.620 --> 00:05:29.600 Where's all the answers? 87 00:05:30.380 --> 00:05:33.200 Communism should be stopped somewhere and it might as well be in Vietnam, 88 00:05:33.380 --> 00:05:35.060 because first thing you know, 89 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:37.860 communist China would love to get down into the Pacific. 90 00:05:38.520 --> 00:05:40.760 They don't have enough room for their people as it is. 91 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:45.360 And they would just take over everything if they don't stop them in Asia. 92 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:49.480 In every war that they say we fight to stop communism, 93 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:53.800 it doesn't seem right because after all, Russia hasn't lost a man. 94 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:56.140 And look what we've lost. 95 00:05:58.900 --> 00:06:02.840 Do you feel that we've stopped the communism or do you feel it wasn't the real issue or, 96 00:06:03.820 --> 00:06:04.520 you know, how? 97 00:06:04.520 --> 00:06:10.520 No, I feel that there are children born in Vietnam that have now grown to manhood 98 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.220 and have never known anything but war. 99 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:18.200 And I feel those people over there must be sick and tired of war. 100 00:06:18.340 --> 00:06:21.860 And I think they're entitled to a time for peace. 101 00:06:22.400 --> 00:06:25.700 I have heard it said that some of the boys come back and they say, 102 00:06:25.900 --> 00:06:27.600 those people don't even want us there. 103 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:31.620 So that makes you wonder, doesn't it? 104 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:33.220 A lot of them were glad we were there. 105 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:34.780 A lot of them hated me. 106 00:06:35.340 --> 00:06:39.520 Most of them thought that if you were an American, you owed them something. 107 00:06:40.300 --> 00:06:41.940 And I think we do owe them something. 108 00:06:41.940 --> 00:06:43.600 We owe them the right to live. 109 00:06:44.080 --> 00:06:47.420 So if they had their way, I think that a lot of those people are peasant people. 110 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:48.160 They're ignorant. 111 00:06:48.440 --> 00:06:51.520 They're going to go the way that the country offers them the most. 112 00:06:54.100 --> 00:06:57.540 So perhaps they would go communists, communistic. 113 00:07:01.960 --> 00:07:04.740 As Jake said, yes, it would be their choice. 114 00:07:04.980 --> 00:07:06.980 Yes, but we're trying to save them from this. 115 00:07:07.200 --> 00:07:13.200 Let me say, if we got out tomorrow, do you think that the government's contention 116 00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:16.300 that there would be a bloodbath would hold true? 117 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:17.580 There would not be any bloodbath. 118 00:07:17.660 --> 00:07:21.960 The only people that would suffer a bloodbath would be Tu and Key 119 00:07:21.960 --> 00:07:23.880 and all these people like that. 120 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.100 But they'll never suffer, you see, because when they lose, 121 00:07:26.140 --> 00:07:29.380 they're going to take off to Switzerland and live off all the money 122 00:07:29.380 --> 00:07:31.920 they've been hoarding away the last 10 years. 123 00:07:32.420 --> 00:07:34.000 They'll never get touched. 124 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.960 If we get out, we're going to eliminate a bloodbath that's going on right now. 125 00:07:37.980 --> 00:07:38.980 That's my contention. 126 00:07:39.380 --> 00:07:43.200 Well, I'll tell you whether I'd become president Nixon or not, I'd like to end it. 127 00:07:43.300 --> 00:07:45.300 I don't know how I'd do it, but I'd like to end. 128 00:07:45.300 --> 00:07:47.580 I wouldn't be dropping atom bombs on the people 129 00:07:47.580 --> 00:07:51.680 because them people aren't to blame for being at that war. 130 00:07:53.220 --> 00:07:57.080 They have their forms of government, which they believe in the same as we do. 131 00:07:57.940 --> 00:08:01.540 And why shouldn't they stick up for their rights, whether they're one side or the other? 132 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:03.580 I'd like to end it. 133 00:08:03.580 --> 00:08:05.060 I'd like to get our boys out of there. 134 00:08:05.540 --> 00:08:06.880 How I do it, I don't know. 135 00:08:07.300 --> 00:08:11.220 I wouldn't want to hurt them, and the same as I don't want ours to be hurt. 136 00:08:12.860 --> 00:08:14.940 As I say, I had a son, he was in Vietnam. 137 00:08:15.100 --> 00:08:18.320 He says, Dad, why should I have to go over there? 138 00:08:18.320 --> 00:08:20.820 You asked me, he says, you answer that. 139 00:08:20.940 --> 00:08:23.400 I said, well, Marty, what do you think? 140 00:08:23.420 --> 00:08:26.900 He said, well, it's because I'm an American and a citizen of this country. 141 00:08:27.140 --> 00:08:28.340 He says, the only reason I go. 142 00:08:29.400 --> 00:08:33.460 I think an 18-year-old owes something to this country. 143 00:08:34.220 --> 00:08:38.980 I have a son over there right now, and I lost two brothers in World War II. 144 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:42.800 We had something to fight for in World War II, 145 00:08:43.260 --> 00:08:46.860 and you had nobody that wouldn't volunteer. 146 00:08:46.980 --> 00:08:49.100 Very few wouldn't volunteer. 147 00:08:49.660 --> 00:08:53.900 I wouldn't mind, I don't think, serving my time in the army for the country, 148 00:08:53.980 --> 00:08:56.540 because I think the country's given me a lot of things, 149 00:08:56.900 --> 00:08:58.220 and it's given me a chance to go to school. 150 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:00.820 I had to work through school, but it gave me a chance to at least go. 151 00:09:01.380 --> 00:09:06.820 But I don't know, I think I'd really sort of worry about going over to Vietnam, 152 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.360 because I hate to fight somebody else's war. 153 00:09:09.620 --> 00:09:13.440 What difference is there between World War II and the Vietnam War? 154 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:18.320 When you want to base it back to facts, we were attacked. 155 00:09:19.660 --> 00:09:23.660 I think I feel like how my dad said, you're getting attacked, it's direct attack. 156 00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:26.860 It's at home, okay, it's right there. 157 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:29.820 It's Pearl Harbor, okay, there's, you know, 158 00:09:29.820 --> 00:09:31.880 they came in, and they like, Mike said, you know, 159 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.640 some guy punches you in the mouth, you're not going to just let him walk away from you. 160 00:09:35.160 --> 00:09:35.820 That's how I feel. 161 00:09:35.820 --> 00:09:38.700 I think I'd be in the lines, you know, enlisting, 162 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:41.020 but I really don't think I'd go to Vietnam. 163 00:09:42.060 --> 00:09:43.080 I'd be damned if I go. 164 00:09:43.460 --> 00:09:45.920 It's hard to say who is for and who is against, 165 00:09:45.980 --> 00:09:48.700 but I think what the hard hats are against is this 166 00:09:49.280 --> 00:09:52.040 real out is protesting and just tearing things up. 167 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:55.880 It's more that than I think that they're really for the war. 168 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.800 I resent your statement that I got a flag on my car and that makes me a hawk. 169 00:09:59.820 --> 00:10:00.880 I don't think it's true. 170 00:10:01.040 --> 00:10:06.380 I think people who do buy the American flag aren't concerned with keeping the war going. 171 00:10:06.560 --> 00:10:10.020 I think they want to end it just as as much as I'd say I would, 172 00:10:10.860 --> 00:10:16.580 but they are trying to show that they are Americans and they will back the people up that are there. 173 00:10:17.520 --> 00:10:18.440 Why are we there? 174 00:10:18.760 --> 00:10:23.020 Because some people made a lot of mistakes about, you know, 1963 or 64, 175 00:10:23.540 --> 00:10:27.720 and I think wrong decisions shouldn't have to cost me my life or my legs or my arms 176 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:28.560 or something like that. 177 00:10:28.560 --> 00:10:33.000 If they get out of Vietnam, what do you think is going to happen to your prosperity? 178 00:10:33.380 --> 00:10:37.260 It's the war that put people to work, give them salaries, give them big money. 179 00:10:37.460 --> 00:10:39.280 That's why you've got to have these dog on things. 180 00:10:40.020 --> 00:10:43.560 You've had World War II, you've had Korea, now you've got this. 181 00:10:43.780 --> 00:10:45.700 After this, you're going to go to the East. 182 00:10:46.220 --> 00:10:48.660 Every 10 years, this country has to have a war. 183 00:10:48.680 --> 00:10:49.740 Why bring employment? 184 00:10:51.020 --> 00:10:53.540 So many people have to die and it's a dirty shame. 185 00:10:53.860 --> 00:10:58.380 It's your politicians too that have to take a good portion of this blame 186 00:10:58.560 --> 00:11:03.700 because I think there's a lot of them that get a certain percentage of these defense 187 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:06.800 contracts and things that go out, 188 00:11:06.880 --> 00:11:10.340 and I think there are a lot of politicians that are involved in this 189 00:11:10.340 --> 00:11:13.880 and they get their cut and this is what's just prolonging everything. 190 00:11:15.460 --> 00:11:17.740 Michael talks about the black market there, 191 00:11:18.060 --> 00:11:22.280 or he talks about generals that have, you know, helicopters with chrome runners and stuff like that 192 00:11:22.280 --> 00:11:25.060 and guys that count rifles so they can get promotions. 193 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.160 They count rifles as a dead VC. 194 00:11:27.160 --> 00:11:28.980 They count any weapons they capture. 195 00:11:29.220 --> 00:11:32.840 They figure they got the weapons so they might as well consider the VC dead. 196 00:11:33.640 --> 00:11:36.040 You know, I mean, maybe World War II is like that. 197 00:11:36.160 --> 00:11:37.100 I don't know, it wasn't there, okay? 198 00:11:37.100 --> 00:11:39.480 I imagine there's a lot of innocent people that got killed in World War II 199 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:44.280 and a lot of inequities, but, God, you know, why, you know, I mean, 200 00:11:44.280 --> 00:11:50.420 it's so obvious that the war is, so many things in the war are fixed around the dollar. 201 00:11:50.680 --> 00:11:52.540 You know, somebody's making money, okay? 202 00:11:52.820 --> 00:11:54.720 And I don't want people making money off of me. 203 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:55.780 Well, that's true. 204 00:11:55.940 --> 00:11:59.620 Money is being made left and right and that's why I think this war is being prolonged. 205 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:06.360 I've already buried one friend that was killed in Vietnam. 206 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:09.500 I've seen another come back, 50% disability. 207 00:12:10.920 --> 00:12:15.100 And there are two people right now that I know who probably end up there. 208 00:12:15.900 --> 00:12:16.280 In Vietnam? 209 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:17.000 210 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:22.240 Yes, I don't mean to get this nervous about it, but to see somebody come back who is 19 211 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:25.100 and you don't know what kind of future he's gonna have, 212 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:28.960 you know, you kind of wonder, is it all worth it? 213 00:12:29.740 --> 00:12:35.800 And, like, well, I'm 20 right now, so my whole age group, you know, is likely to end up there. 214 00:12:37.500 --> 00:12:40.920 And I'd just like to see it ended and I can't give an answer how. 215 00:12:41.820 --> 00:12:42.700 I wish I could. 216 00:12:46.540 --> 00:12:49.240 Well, it is true, it is a money-making deal. 217 00:12:50.040 --> 00:12:50.840 It's the government. 218 00:12:51.780 --> 00:12:56.080 I say the government, just keeping it going, that's all. 219 00:12:56.760 --> 00:12:58.940 I thought it was the government for the people. 220 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:00.520 Yeah, it's for the people, all right. 221 00:13:00.940 --> 00:13:01.620 Who, which people? 222 00:13:02.820 --> 00:13:03.960 The rich people. 223 00:13:04.700 --> 00:13:07.840 Because their material, everything is being made by big manufacturers 224 00:13:08.740 --> 00:13:09.900 and they're making a profit. 225 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.940 Well, yeah, well, I got, you know, I got hit by a piece of General Motors shrapnel, 226 00:13:13.940 --> 00:13:15.120 you know, from an 81 mortar. 227 00:13:15.260 --> 00:13:18.940 You know, they dug it out of my leg and it said GM and it had the numbers on it and everything, 228 00:13:18.940 --> 00:13:22.480 so General Motors is making mortars, man. 229 00:13:22.580 --> 00:13:25.100 You know, that's, what else can I tell you? 230 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:28.140 Like, they're making money, you know, that's what it's all about. 231 00:13:28.280 --> 00:13:30.180 Like, they're supposed to be making cars. 232 00:13:31.620 --> 00:13:36.160 If our government didn't spend so much money on other nations, 233 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.260 giving them aid, giving them everything we have, 234 00:13:39.760 --> 00:13:41.920 we'd be better off because we could spend our money on poverty, 235 00:13:42.100 --> 00:13:43.300 we could clean up the cities. 236 00:13:43.520 --> 00:13:46.220 Use the manpower and the money we're spending on the war 237 00:13:46.220 --> 00:13:49.520 to concentrate on the curing of the ills we have here, 238 00:13:49.540 --> 00:13:54.480 environmental problems and poverty and housing, education. 239 00:13:54.880 --> 00:14:01.720 Like institutions, hospitals for brain-retarded children and muscular dystrophy and everything else. 240 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.240 We don't have to, money spent on war is non-returnable. 241 00:14:05.620 --> 00:14:07.040 It's just money that's blown up. 242 00:14:07.140 --> 00:14:09.220 A $500 bomb is $500 wasted. 243 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:11.240 I'm just against the war. 244 00:14:16.860 --> 00:14:20.620 Sir, how do you feel about the effect of the war on this community, 245 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:22.600 sons of this community and family? 246 00:14:22.620 --> 00:14:23.900 This war, I think, is wrong. 247 00:14:24.100 --> 00:14:24.520 Why? 248 00:14:24.920 --> 00:14:28.960 Where's the time and money and human lives sacrificed for what? 249 00:14:29.900 --> 00:14:30.740 I don't know. 250 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:31.540 What? 251 00:14:31.780 --> 00:14:32.360 That's it. 252 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:36.060 Somebody tells us we're fighting communism or something. 253 00:14:36.500 --> 00:14:37.340 That's where the war goes. 254 00:14:37.500 --> 00:14:39.760 Why do we have to be the policemen of the world? 255 00:14:42.380 --> 00:14:44.880 What about our allies, so-called allies? 256 00:14:46.140 --> 00:14:48.480 What are they contributing towards it? 257 00:14:49.060 --> 00:14:53.540 I'll tell you what, their problem is if they start feeding the people that are hungry in this world, 258 00:14:53.880 --> 00:14:55.140 they wouldn't have any of this. 259 00:14:56.940 --> 00:15:01.460 Let's face it, mostly pertains to hunger in the world. 260 00:15:01.580 --> 00:15:04.860 That's what creates communism, actually. 261 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:10.400 They find a solution to feed them people, they won't have no problems. 262 00:15:10.700 --> 00:15:14.100 Can you imagine the amount of hungry people they could feed 263 00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:17.840 just in this country, just in this country? 264 00:15:18.380 --> 00:15:20.620 And this is something I think is... 265 00:15:20.620 --> 00:15:22.300 Look at the hospitals they could have built. 266 00:15:22.420 --> 00:15:24.640 Well, you won't have your overcrowded schools, 267 00:15:24.780 --> 00:15:26.840 you won't have your poor transportation systems, 268 00:15:27.160 --> 00:15:28.620 you won't have children going hungry. 269 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.920 All these problems can be solved with the money that we're putting in the war. 270 00:15:32.020 --> 00:15:34.460 If they put it to solve the social problems of this country, 271 00:15:35.300 --> 00:15:37.640 it would be such an improvement for us. 272 00:15:37.780 --> 00:15:40.640 And if the whole world did the same thing, we wouldn't have the problems. 273 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:43.200 If we all tried and solve our own in our own country. 274 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:47.420 I think you're a little idealistic about believing that all the problems will be solved. 275 00:15:48.500 --> 00:15:51.380 I agree with you, I think that money could be used someplace else. 276 00:15:51.500 --> 00:15:54.820 It shouldn't be used by a couple thousand dollars to make a bomb 277 00:15:54.820 --> 00:15:57.380 and then just blow the bomb up and knock down some trees. 278 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.620 The money could be used here, there's a lot of people that need it. 279 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:03.800 I hope that you get by all the people that take their cut 280 00:16:03.800 --> 00:16:05.720 and get down to the people who really need it. 281 00:16:05.820 --> 00:16:08.580 I don't know if that's gonna work because that's not the American way. 282 00:16:09.400 --> 00:16:12.300 Yeah, in fact, they could improve conditions here, too. 283 00:16:12.300 --> 00:16:15.680 We got it good, but we could have a hell of a lot better, too. 284 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:17.440 How would you improve it here with that money? 285 00:16:18.340 --> 00:16:19.620 Well, there's a lot of ways. 286 00:16:19.680 --> 00:16:21.920 For one thing, towards educational purposes. 287 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.920 If you educate people, they'll avoid some of their poverty, too. 288 00:16:27.060 --> 00:16:27.480 Wouldn't it? 289 00:16:28.900 --> 00:16:31.220 I'd like to educate people about the war, you know, 290 00:16:31.220 --> 00:16:33.440 so they could all understand that if we ended it, we'd have all this money. 291 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:34.940 You'd have to start in Washington. 292 00:16:35.520 --> 00:16:36.900 And our representatives. 293 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:40.460 Educate them to our way of thinking, then. 294 00:16:40.460 --> 00:16:42.240 If we're supposed to be the majority. 295 00:16:42.660 --> 00:16:45.600 The silent majority is about to make itself heard. 296 00:16:46.140 --> 00:16:51.680 Not by shouting obscenities, not with disorderly street demonstrations, 297 00:16:51.820 --> 00:16:56.400 waving Viet Cong flags and demanding that America throw in the sponge. 298 00:16:57.160 --> 00:16:58.140 Oh, that's what he says. 299 00:16:59.100 --> 00:17:01.580 But that's not necessarily the truth, is it? 300 00:17:01.900 --> 00:17:03.020 Did you find that out here? 301 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:06.800 Well, all right. 302 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:09.740 How could he speak for the majority when he doesn't even know who they are? 303 00:17:11.760 --> 00:17:12.660 I'll see you. 304 00:17:15.500 --> 00:17:18.700 We talk about divisiveness in the country. 305 00:17:18.900 --> 00:17:22.560 I think Agnew is purposely going around to keep the country separated and divided. 306 00:17:22.900 --> 00:17:24.120 I think that's his purpose. 307 00:17:24.380 --> 00:17:27.540 Because when people are divided, they fight with each other 308 00:17:27.540 --> 00:17:30.060 and they forget about the major issues involved. 309 00:17:30.120 --> 00:17:33.440 Like you were talking about what we have to do in this country 310 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:38.260 to help the poverty program and the poor people or housing. 311 00:17:38.260 --> 00:17:40.960 Housing has never been taken care of in this country. 312 00:17:41.340 --> 00:17:42.420 It's just been side issues. 313 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:46.420 So if we fight among ourselves about Agnew's contention, 314 00:17:46.800 --> 00:17:50.800 the way he criticizes certain people, so we keep divided, 315 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.940 then we can't really do much with our elected officials. 316 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:55.700 And I think that's the purpose behind it. 317 00:17:56.000 --> 00:18:00.880 Yeah, but you're talking about our vice president doing these things. 318 00:18:01.760 --> 00:18:03.700 Now, why? Who is he serving? 319 00:18:04.280 --> 00:18:06.140 He's serving as the interests of the party, 320 00:18:06.540 --> 00:18:09.140 and of the people that are running the country. 321 00:18:09.740 --> 00:18:14.000 I don't think they want people like the average guy to get together 322 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:19.300 and demand his representatives to make an accounting of what he's doing. 323 00:18:19.700 --> 00:18:21.940 But you're talking about the people who are running the country. 324 00:18:22.080 --> 00:18:24.260 But we're the people that are supporting the country. 325 00:18:24.740 --> 00:18:26.860 I mean, it just doesn't make sense. 326 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:28.860 We really don't have much to say about what's going on. 327 00:18:28.860 --> 00:18:30.800 We support the country and somebody else runs it. 328 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:32.080 Is that what you're telling us? 329 00:18:32.080 --> 00:18:33.000 That is exactly it. 330 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:34.500 I mean, I don't make the policy. 331 00:18:34.740 --> 00:18:36.780 Somebody better than us makes the policy. 332 00:18:37.760 --> 00:18:41.160 But, or somebody that should be more than a knower makes the policy. 333 00:18:42.800 --> 00:18:44.420 But I hope they know what they're doing. 334 00:18:45.100 --> 00:18:46.420 They don't know what they're doing. 335 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:47.120 We're in trouble. 336 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:50.140 The silent majority is just like it tells you in the Bible. 337 00:18:50.300 --> 00:18:52.180 It's already told. They brought that Bible up before. 338 00:18:52.600 --> 00:18:56.620 In Romans, third chapter, second verse, obey the laws of your land, 339 00:18:56.620 --> 00:18:58.680 because the laws of your land, 340 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:04.060 God seen fit to put people in power in government 341 00:19:04.060 --> 00:19:07.220 and you obey the laws of the land as you are at the laws of God. 342 00:19:07.560 --> 00:19:10.040 We were brought up to never question authority. 343 00:19:10.360 --> 00:19:12.300 Isn't that true? People of our age group. 344 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:15.320 And the government was right and the policeman was right 345 00:19:15.320 --> 00:19:18.140 and the priest was right and mom and dad were right. 346 00:19:18.620 --> 00:19:19.580 The school board was right. 347 00:19:19.780 --> 00:19:24.120 Anybody that was in authority knew what was best and how we should think 348 00:19:24.120 --> 00:19:25.840 and they told us how to think. 349 00:19:25.840 --> 00:19:28.080 But I never told my dad he was crazy. 350 00:19:28.760 --> 00:19:31.420 Shouldn't I let my government know that I think they're crazy? 351 00:19:31.520 --> 00:19:33.060 I think they are insane, really. 352 00:19:33.100 --> 00:19:35.860 This is an insane thing we're doing to my group. 353 00:19:36.560 --> 00:19:37.640 How we say it? 354 00:19:37.760 --> 00:19:39.000 Well, how should I say it? 355 00:19:40.080 --> 00:19:41.120 In a proper manner. 356 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:42.320 There's a lot of things I don't like, 357 00:19:42.380 --> 00:19:44.120 but I don't know, throwing bombs in places. 358 00:19:44.120 --> 00:19:46.100 I didn't like school when I was going to school. 359 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:49.680 The teacher's sister over in the school slapped my hand one day. 360 00:19:49.760 --> 00:19:51.140 I didn't go out and throw a bomb in the hallway 361 00:19:51.140 --> 00:19:53.000 and blow the school all over the intersection. 362 00:19:53.580 --> 00:19:55.180 I just went home and told my father 363 00:19:55.180 --> 00:19:56.920 and then he gave me a couple more whacks. 364 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:01.720 What can we do so that we can be heard, 365 00:20:01.940 --> 00:20:03.160 that the government will hear us? 366 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:07.820 We're the middle class, the so-called, you know, silent majority. 367 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:09.420 What can you do about it? 368 00:20:09.600 --> 00:20:10.880 What do you mean, what can you do about it? 369 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:12.640 There's 200 of us in here right now. 370 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:12.980 Like what? 371 00:20:12.980 --> 00:20:14.020 There's 200 of us in here right now. 372 00:20:14.020 --> 00:20:14.980 What can you do about it, man? 373 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:17.380 That's why the younger generation is trying. 374 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:18.280 That's why they're protesting. 375 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:19.980 That's why they're doing all this, you know. 376 00:20:20.060 --> 00:20:22.800 If you want to complain because you don't want to go to war, go vote. 377 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:23.960 What do you mean, go vote? 378 00:20:24.520 --> 00:20:26.040 Why, what's the reason for voting? 379 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:27.200 What's the idea of voting? 380 00:20:27.560 --> 00:20:27.900 We can go to war. 381 00:20:28.120 --> 00:20:30.420 If you say there's going to be a war every 10 years, 382 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:31.740 what good is your vote going to do 383 00:20:31.740 --> 00:20:33.180 if there's going to be a war every 10 years? 384 00:20:33.360 --> 00:20:37.760 I didn't raise a kid to go 16,000 miles to fight for somebody else, 385 00:20:38.140 --> 00:20:39.980 somebody that you probably never see again. 386 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:43.780 And I don't blame them if they don't want to go. 387 00:20:44.800 --> 00:20:46.480 But I look at it this way. 388 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:48.080 This is their country. 389 00:20:48.600 --> 00:20:50.200 This is the country they were born in. 390 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:52.040 True, they didn't ask to be born here. 391 00:20:52.040 --> 00:20:55.480 But it's their government that's in trouble. 392 00:20:57.540 --> 00:20:58.500 Do your best to help them. 393 00:20:58.500 --> 00:20:59.760 So many people get it wrong. 394 00:20:59.900 --> 00:21:02.980 You have to understand that there's a definite difference 395 00:21:02.980 --> 00:21:06.600 between the country and the government. 396 00:21:07.080 --> 00:21:10.500 You see, the people in this country aren't fighting a Vietnam War. 397 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:12.160 The government's fighting it. 398 00:21:12.220 --> 00:21:15.640 Well, the government is the people, supposedly. 399 00:21:15.700 --> 00:21:17.060 But in this instance, it is not. 400 00:21:17.060 --> 00:21:17.900 Not anymore, it's not. 401 00:21:17.900 --> 00:21:18.920 No, I agree with you. 402 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:19.340 It is not. 403 00:21:19.340 --> 00:21:20.760 Not in this situation, it's not. 404 00:21:20.760 --> 00:21:23.780 Are they going to force all of us to become unruly 405 00:21:23.780 --> 00:21:26.480 just because they utterly refuse to listen to us 406 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:29.940 when we have on the white gloves and the lipstick and the nice smile? 407 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.680 As a matter of fact, Nixon said he will not listen to us 408 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:36.540 and that he will not be dictated to from the people in the streets. 409 00:21:36.980 --> 00:21:38.700 The people in the streets are me. 410 00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:42.540 But we have to have respect for each other's opinion 411 00:21:43.740 --> 00:21:47.960 and accomplish what we do, as we say, in a free society 412 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:50.260 without anybody getting hurt. 413 00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:59.600 Well, if you look back at American history, isn't it? 414 00:21:59.600 --> 00:22:03.080 We always looked up to the United States as being number one. 415 00:22:05.900 --> 00:22:07.360 That means a lot, too. 416 00:22:07.500 --> 00:22:08.960 You're going to have to lose lives. 417 00:22:09.620 --> 00:22:12.800 If the people continue to feel like this and the majority rule, 418 00:22:12.980 --> 00:22:15.520 then we'll never disavow ourselves in NAMM, OK? 419 00:22:15.520 --> 00:22:18.080 But if the majority starts to pick up the trend 420 00:22:18.080 --> 00:22:21.000 that we have to withdraw from NAMM no matter what, 421 00:22:21.420 --> 00:22:23.380 then eventually it's going to reach the establishment 422 00:22:23.380 --> 00:22:25.360 and this bureaucracy is going to have to come down. 423 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:27.540 It's going to have to come down. 424 00:22:27.540 --> 00:22:29.660 It's going to have to represent the people like it's supposed to. 425 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:31.480 Bureaucracy right now is too powerful. 426 00:22:31.940 --> 00:22:33.600 The government is too powerful, right? 427 00:22:33.700 --> 00:22:38.200 All our neighbors and people who have lived in this community over 15, 20 years, 428 00:22:38.760 --> 00:22:41.020 I think that they're now beginning to realize 429 00:22:41.020 --> 00:22:46.380 they do have some stake in the politics of their government 430 00:22:46.380 --> 00:22:48.280 and that we are the government. 431 00:22:48.380 --> 00:22:53.120 What can we do now here in Garfield Ridge to see that we are represented 432 00:22:53.120 --> 00:22:55.400 and that our voice is heard and that it means something? 433 00:22:55.500 --> 00:22:58.260 I don't care if I'm just heard and then they say, oh, well, the heck with it. 434 00:22:58.660 --> 00:22:59.860 No one listens to us. 435 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:02.880 It might sound radical and everybody's talking about revolution, 436 00:23:02.940 --> 00:23:07.120 but I think that the most effective revolution in this country would be a tax revolution. 437 00:23:07.340 --> 00:23:08.760 Just don't pay your taxes. 438 00:23:10.560 --> 00:23:15.400 Well, I think it takes everybody, not just a few people. 439 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:18.320 I think it takes the minority and they should all get together and just strike. 440 00:23:18.740 --> 00:23:19.540 Everybody strike. 441 00:23:20.580 --> 00:23:20.760 Right. 442 00:23:22.100 --> 00:23:23.680 Well, it's tough what it would do. 443 00:23:23.760 --> 00:23:26.380 It might show the government that the people have to still a stronghold. 444 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:29.500 Listen, our taxes in this community go up every year. 445 00:23:29.560 --> 00:23:32.680 We read a headline in 1969, taxes go up 13%. 446 00:23:33.740 --> 00:23:38.000 Expect 20% raise in 1970 and we all sit back and accept it. 447 00:23:38.120 --> 00:23:39.600 It's been printed in advance. 448 00:23:39.800 --> 00:23:43.520 Well, would you agree with me in saying that the only people who benefit, 449 00:23:44.340 --> 00:23:50.880 who can gain anything because of our tax laws are the very wealthy or the very poor 450 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:55.700 who don't have anything so they don't pay any taxes and we support the country. 451 00:23:55.700 --> 00:23:57.440 Yet we have the least to say about it. 452 00:23:57.500 --> 00:24:00.960 We are the silent majority and I believe that we're becoming vocal 453 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.160 and we really want to do something about it. 454 00:24:03.220 --> 00:24:08.320 But the definition of your silent majority, I don't think agrees or 455 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.240 is the same as President Nixon's talking about. 456 00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:14.060 That's a myth. 457 00:24:14.520 --> 00:24:15.180 That's a myth. 458 00:24:15.560 --> 00:24:18.100 That's something that's not talking about the silent majority you're talking about. 459 00:24:18.100 --> 00:24:22.260 No, we are the majority of people are not going to stay silent. 460 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.660 They are becoming, we're beginning to talk.