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This was a collage of all the dances together.

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That's a mask by Remesas.

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You can't see that.

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That has a key.

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It was called play.

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It was a charming idea, I think.

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That you can't see either.

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That's a rope, and I called that toil, and I did this dance with a rope.

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That's Juliette, the girl.

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That's a very humorous dance.

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It's called Delirious Delusions.

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It was a comedy.

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That was fun to do, too.

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That's Frankie and Johnny.

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Maybe you've seen that.

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It's been on television.

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I did that with Bentley Stone, who was my partner for years and years.

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He was a great dancer.

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He died just last month.

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But we did that together.

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That was fun to do.

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It was considered very daring at the time.

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I know we took it to Paris.

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Dance in Paris with Frankie and Johnny.

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They were absolutely shocked.

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They said, it's not a ballet.

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It was done so-called in the vernacular.

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That's Frankie and Johnny in the end.

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That's a very humorous dance.

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That's a very humorous dance.

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That's also Frankie and Johnny, to get to see how good that song was there.

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You remember, don't you, Arn?

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Of course you do.

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And this is Bentley also in the Boise e la Cicina Rita.

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That's a ballet I did called Love Song, which is quite lovely.

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But, it's gone.

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That's Romeo and Juliet again.

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And this is the Zephyr and Pharoah.

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This was a little comedy, which is the Queen of the World.

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This is called Park Avenue Atlas.

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We danced at the Rainbow Room in New York.

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I don't know if you've ever heard of that.

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That's a very swank, sort of a night clubbing place in New York.

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And I had to compete with the beefsteak.

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People were all eating all the time.

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I found that rather difficult, so I knocked myself out in this dance,

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trying to make them look at me instead of eating their beefsteak.

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And that's E.E. Cummings.

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Do you know the poet E.E. Cummings?

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Do you?

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This was His Quistal Goes Things.

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No, this is His Quistal Goes Things.

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I did a whole bunch of E.E. Cummings poems.

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I think they're marvelous to dance to,

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and I like to speak and dance at the same time,

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which was considered very outrageous at the time.

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That's another one.

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But do you know the one, the Cambridge ladies who live in furry souls,

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are unbeautiful and have comfortable minds,

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also with the church's pious at lastings adulterers,

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unscented, in the shape of spirit,

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that they believe in Christ and longfellow, both dead,

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are invariably interested in so many things,

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that the present writing one still divided fingers,

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knitting for the, is it poles perhaps?

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For permanent thesis, calling down these scandals.

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This is in Professor Lee.

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The Cambridge ladies do not care about Cambridge,

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if sometimes in its box of sky-locked moon corners,

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the moon rattles like a frightened, angry candy.

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Well, that was the Cambridge ladies,

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and I did a whole series of those.

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I like E.E. Cummings because if you read them long enough,

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they mean something.

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When you first read them, they sound, well, flettable about, you know.

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But anyway, I think he's a great poet.

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Oh, that's Rebecca Sandor-Styrfan,

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Perish Miserably by H. Bellack.

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I did a lot of little limericks.

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I had to lighten up my program a bit so people would laugh.

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And that's A Lot of Wine Among Flowers,

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I Alone, Drinking Without Compagny.

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That was inspired by that lovely statue in the art institute

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of the Goddess of Mercy.

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And that's Devin Harlow.

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Oh, this is Carl Sandberg's songs.

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Carl Sandberg's songs.

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This is I Had a Horse and His Name was Bill.

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Woody ran, he couldn't stand still.

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He ran away one day, and I ran with him.

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That's the same horse.

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This is also the same horse.

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There were a whole series of little ones.

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This is Obe Joyful, the one that's made the most of spring.

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And this was I'm Sad and I'm Lonely.

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My Heart Will Break, My Sweetie Loves Another.

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I Wish I Were Dead.

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And there's Bentley Stowell and me and some of those Stravinsky things.

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I'm going to go fast because I've got some more to show you,

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and I think I'm going on too long.

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Can you tell me when I should stop, Lauren, if you get bored?

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This is me in my house, my home.

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My husband did all those pictures of all the dancers.

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He's a French artist.

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He did all the pictures of the dancers on the walls.

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And this is Nuria that teaches having fun.

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Now we'll go to the ballets.

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Can you change?

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What?

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Oh, we have to change now.

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So I'll show you some of my ballets now.

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How much longer should I go on?

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What?

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Can we have an hour more?

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All right.

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Well, now that's where I got all my ideas was by making dances all myself.

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Now, these are ballets.

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That one is called Oak Street Beach.

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You've all been to Oak Street Beach.

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And this is when I was trying desperately to be American.

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And Oak Street Beach seems about the most American thing I've ever known.

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The skyscrapers right there on the beach practically.

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That's Oak Street Beach also.

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See how realistic it is.

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Oh, that's here, that's the first ballet that Aaron Copland ever did.

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And I commissioned it from him.

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I thought he was talented.

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And this was a ballet about a child on a law court.

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And it was interesting.

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He's, of course, a great composer.

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That's the same ballet that Mastiff and Jury, Remesov did those costumes.

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You know, it's very important in ballets that you pick the right people to work with.

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You have to pick a good composer.

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You have to pick a good designer for your costumes, a good designer for your sets.

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And then the dancers can make you or break you.

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I mean, you can do a perfectly lousy ballet, and if you have wonderful dancers,

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I'd say it's a good ballet and vice versa.

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So you have to be very careful who you pick.

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Oh, this one was called American Pattern.

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This is an interesting ballet.

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I did that in 48, wasn't it?

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I'm never going to remember days.

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I'm sorry, I apologize.

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And that was a ballet about a wife who didn't want to be domestic.

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She was bored with domesticity.

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And these three women that come in represent domesticity.

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And she was always trying different things.

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She tried to, well, she didn't like to be a housekeeper.

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Oh, this is the one, the Bentley Stone.

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Oh, that was the Millicent Museum.

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She was attracted to him and was going to stay with him forever.

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But he was too much for her, so she finally at the end goes back to being a housewife and bored.

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That's Frankie and Johnny.

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That's Frankie and Johnny also with Nellie Blythe.

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This is Frankie and Johnny also.

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That's what's that Frankie and Johnny, the Bentley Stone and myself.

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That's Carmen.

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Do you all know Carmen?

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I guess everybody in the world knows Carmen.

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And you can't fail with Carmen.

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I found that out.

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You can do anything to it.

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You can sing it, even badly, and people will love it.

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You can dance.

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So I've done four different versions of Carmen.

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And I finally gave up.

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I said I can't do any more of Carmen's.

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This is the first one I did.

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This is the contraband one.

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This is kind of ringing contraband.

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That's Walter Cameron.

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And that's Carmen also.

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It's the first one I did.

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This is myself in the middle of Carmen.

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And that's Bentley Stone as Escamillo.

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I did it with Escamillo as a fascist.

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And Jose as a loyal soldier.

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And Carmen didn't know how to do with politics.

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She didn't know anything about them.

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She was just interested in the two men.

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And I think that's kind of an interesting version of it.

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Actually, somebody else just did one now.

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I think it was Beverly Sills.

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She used that same idea.

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But just last year, mine was, I don't know what date this was.

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Do you know the date?

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39?

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Well, that was a long time ago.

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And then I did a Carmen, oh, every four.

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Oh, that's me on the floor dead with Walter Cameron as host.

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That ain't killing me.

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That was a very dramatic ending.

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And that's the same thing.

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And this is Prudhusha Klekovich.

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And Kevin Johnson.

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They were wonderful in Carmen.

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This was done by Bernard Diddy.

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Have you ever heard of him?

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I bet you have.

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You see, you don't know very much.

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You're here to learn.

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But this is a strange way to kiss, but it's very effective,

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Valerie.

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You might try it some time.

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You like kissing that way.

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Kissing in a perfect arabesque.

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And that's a big kiss too.

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Oh, now this is the last Carmen I did.

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You see how different, this is completely in the,

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without any of the broccoli ruffles and anything.

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And we took these costumes, they were made in Paris.

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And when we unpacked them, the wardrobe mistress said,

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oh, my goodness, that is in Carmen.

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I could do a better Carmen than that.

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You don't have the ruffles, red ruffles, and lots of ruffles,

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and ruffles, and ruffles.

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So you see, she didn't know.

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And this was by a very great artist, Andre Del Fou.

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And I think this was the most interesting Carmen that we did.

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But you see how you can take Carmen and do practically anything

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with it.

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This was a, I did this for the Dance Theatre of Harlem.

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They're all black.

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And they did it marvelously.

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That's Lydia Barker, she's a black girl.

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She was a terrific Carmen.

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This is Carmina Barana, this is the figure of the,

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do you know the music to Carmina Barana?

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It's wonderful, isn't it?

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Well, I did, first I did it with a lyric opera.

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It was an opera.

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And there was a lot of dancing in it.

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And I loved the music, so I finally made a ballet out of it.

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It was very successful.

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I don't know if I have any more pictures of it.

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Oh, no, this is the bells, the Bissamo Novici.

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You know the poem, I suppose, the bells, the bells, the bells,

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the tinted tangle-lations of the bells.

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And that's a very interesting set.

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Noguchi designed that.

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And with each, the gold, the silver bells, the golden bells,

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and so forth, the set kept rising up until it was like this.

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Wait a minute.

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Oh.

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Ah. No.

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You see what an interesting set that is?

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And then at the end of the ballet,

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the whole church collapsed down as when all the bells were finished.

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It was a very interesting idea that he had there.

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So you see how many things go into the making of a ballet.

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It isn't just the choreography at all.

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It isn't just the dancers.

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It takes a little bit of everything.

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This is Billy Sunday.

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You might have seen this on television.

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We've done this on television.

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And Andy Wendick here, he did a long prelude to it

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that is so interesting.

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It was all about Billy Sunday.

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I don't know if you know who he is.

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Do you know who Billy Sunday was?

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You do.

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He was a person who told the Bible stories in the vernacular.

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He told them in slang.

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I've always been interested in the Bible.

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I love the Bible.

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I wanted to do some Bible stories,

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but I thought, oh my God, everybody's done Bible ballets.

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I've got to have a point of view.

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I did something different.

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So then I discovered about Billy Sunday.

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So I did this ballet.

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This is Bathsheba with her bath.

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That's the wise and foolish Burgess.

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That's Frederick Franklin there.

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I don't know if you've heard of him.

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He's a very famous dancer.

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And you see the wise version in white

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and the foolish version there on the floor.

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It's amusing, I think.

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This is Danila.

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Have you ever heard of her?

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Well, you have to.

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She's one of the greatest dancers that ever lived.

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And she doesn't dance anymore.

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She's the teacher now in New York.

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But she was a terrific personality, a Russian.

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She had to speak a few lines in this.

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She was marvelous in it.

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Well, this skips right away.

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Now, this is a ballet that I did called Revenge.

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And you know, I worked with opera so much.

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I love opera.

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I adore opera.

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And they didn't rehearse the ballets till the very end

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because they had to pay overtime or something for the seniors.

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So we waited till the end.

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I had to sit all through the whole operas

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to wait for the ballet.

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And I found them so marvelous.

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The music was so marvelous.

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But I didn't like the way they looked.

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And so then I started making a...

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Come on in and shut the door and stop talking.

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And I don't mean to be rude,

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but I can't talk while you're talking.

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If you want to talk, I'd be delighted to hear you.

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Are you guys willing to say?

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Whatever you say.

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What was I talking about?

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Oh, I was talking about doing the operas and the ballets.

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So I did...

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This one was called Revenge.

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And it was based on a Trovatore.

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And I made an opera, usually two or three hours long.

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So I did them all in about one hour.

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I did it with dancing.

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And they were very successful.

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Oh, interesting, I think.

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That's Clave.

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He's an artist that you should all know.

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That's this design from Leonoro.

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And that's Alicia Marker.

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Have you ever heard of her?

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No?

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Well, she's one of the greatest dancers in everybody.

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She was terrific.

383
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She's a very frightening person.

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She takes centripetal, where I go in the summer,

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I used to go every summer, to learn this part.

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And I made a terribly hard dance.

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Oh, quick and little and on toes and sticking around.

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And I thought she never once did it.

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She'd say after we'd been working for about an hour,

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she'd say, I wasn't in time to go to the beach.

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I thought she could.

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I never once saw her do it.

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But when she came to the performance,

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she was absolutely starling.

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She was so good, so quick.

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But she was a sort of a...

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I wouldn't suggest any of you try that.

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It's better to rehearse your dances.

399
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Oh, well, that's the gypsy scene in the same ballet.

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You can't very well see this.

401
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This is the Azucena.

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It's a part of the work with Azucena and her son, Manrico.

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You have to know all these stories to be able to see what...

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You can't see them very well here either.

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That was by Clavet, who, as I said,

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was a very great artist and designer.

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And this is me, I, if I don't be correct.

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This is I as Salome, which is a rather unusual interpretation

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of Salome.

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It wasn't...

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I think it's interesting anyway.

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Remesov did the costume.

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It was all Lacey Silver Russells.

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I'd call it the Daughter of Perodias.

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I think it's quite an interesting conception.

416
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And this is Alicia Markleburg in the Mary Widow.

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Now, the Mary Widow was my most famous ballet.

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Maybe you've seen it.

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Did you see it on television?

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It took a Peabody Award.

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I did it for the Larry Garber in 1955.

422
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I do know that date.

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And we've been doing it ever since.

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Ever since everybody's been picking up.

425
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It's often to be a failure, but it's even worse to be a success.

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Because when you're a success, then you're stuck with it all your life.

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And that's...

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This is a lovely picture of her.

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The costumes were so beautiful.

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That was all white, pink, rose.

