WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.340 I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can help you. 2 00:00:04.460 --> 00:00:04.460 3 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:09.900 I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can help you. 4 00:00:10.900 --> 00:00:12.300 I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can help you. 5 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:15.120 I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can help you. 6 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:28.900 I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can help you. 7 00:00:29.900 --> 00:00:33.800 You're not doubled, so you do hear the sounds. 8 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:34.860 And does the wind blow in? 9 00:00:34.860 --> 00:00:38.240 I mean, the first three nights I couldn't sleep here. It was so noisy. 10 00:00:38.820 --> 00:00:41.580 I was used to solitude in our old apartments. 11 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:43.360 Even in New York? 12 00:00:43.360 --> 00:00:46.260 In New York, we didn't hear sounds in our other apartment. 13 00:00:46.820 --> 00:00:47.320 That's wonderful. 14 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:48.860 The bathroom was sort of in the back. 15 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:50.660 I'm ready? We're ready? 16 00:00:50.800 --> 00:00:51.460 Oh, okay. 17 00:00:51.460 --> 00:00:52.260 Okay, here we go. 18 00:00:52.260 --> 00:00:52.920 All right. 19 00:00:53.300 --> 00:00:57.200 Starting out, tell me about the first time you met Ruth Page. 20 00:00:58.220 --> 00:01:01.560 Well, it was many. I can't even remember how many years ago. 21 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:04.700 It was probably in the early 70s. 22 00:01:05.080 --> 00:01:08.140 And I was invited to dance her Nutcracker there. 23 00:01:08.880 --> 00:01:11.480 And I went, had a great time. 24 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.480 I went with my husband Jean-Pierre Banffou. 25 00:01:15.300 --> 00:01:21.220 And we brought our balancing version of the pas de deux. 26 00:01:21.500 --> 00:01:22.920 And we did her opening. 27 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:26.700 And I remember I shared a dressing room with Ruth. 28 00:01:26.900 --> 00:01:28.920 And it was a terrific experience. 29 00:01:29.100 --> 00:01:30.500 I mean, it was so much fun. 30 00:01:31.520 --> 00:01:35.180 She would come in and she wore the most outrageous clothes. 31 00:01:35.440 --> 00:01:38.720 I mean, it was always a thrill to see what she'd be wearing next 32 00:01:38.720 --> 00:01:41.240 and what she'd be doing. 33 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.940 I mean, she also, I remember she had a sort of, 34 00:01:47.380 --> 00:01:51.680 I think it was purple tights and a yellow skirt 35 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:54.560 that was sort of slit all the way up her leg. 36 00:01:55.080 --> 00:01:57.140 And I thought, well, that is just great. 37 00:01:57.260 --> 00:01:59.000 She's really ahead of her time. 38 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:01.260 And she did bar every day. 39 00:02:01.380 --> 00:02:03.680 She'd come work out, do her bars. 40 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:08.420 And I remember she said, oh, your husband is so handsome. 41 00:02:08.420 --> 00:02:11.140 I think he's just such a handsome man. 42 00:02:12.340 --> 00:02:14.720 And she was really, you know, happy. 43 00:02:15.720 --> 00:02:17.940 It was a happy experience working with her. 44 00:02:18.160 --> 00:02:21.000 What had you heard about her before you met her? 45 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:21.660 Do you remember? 46 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:29.580 I hadn't really heard too much because her company, of course, 47 00:02:29.600 --> 00:02:30.880 I knew of her, of course. 48 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:36.700 And I think I had, I did have met her casually just to me. 49 00:02:36.700 --> 00:02:39.180 And say hello. 50 00:02:40.440 --> 00:02:44.680 But I think I knew her most through a dear friend of mine, 51 00:02:44.820 --> 00:02:49.400 Andy Wendick, who knew her very well. 52 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.840 So we had, he was a great admirer of hers. 53 00:02:54.780 --> 00:02:58.820 And we had talked about how incredible she was. 54 00:02:58.980 --> 00:03:00.640 I mean, she is an incredible woman. 55 00:03:01.020 --> 00:03:02.520 You know, she's fun to be around. 56 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:02.580 She's a wonderful person. 57 00:03:05.640 --> 00:03:07.940 Now, when you say she's an incredible woman, 58 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:10.660 she is fun to be around, what other kinds of, 59 00:03:10.660 --> 00:03:11.760 are there some experiences? 60 00:03:12.940 --> 00:03:14.100 Wait, wait, wait, wait. 61 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:15.760 Yes, because we're hearing a subway? 62 00:03:16.640 --> 00:03:19.180 I think I can approve this now by using the shotgun microphone. 63 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:20.400 It's really, really booming. 64 00:03:20.760 --> 00:03:21.320 Is it booming? 65 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:25.920 All right. 66 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:27.180 Just take them off. 67 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:29.760 Go ahead, Rol. 68 00:03:30.900 --> 00:03:33.780 There's a wonderful story that she tells about going 69 00:03:33.780 --> 00:03:37.580 and looking at the people on the nude beaches at San Tropez 70 00:03:37.580 --> 00:03:39.200 and saying, oh, they look perfectly awful. 71 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:43.060 And then she said, she looked over and here was this group of beautiful boys. 72 00:03:43.260 --> 00:03:46.320 And so naturally she said, I went over there and there they were. 73 00:03:46.500 --> 00:03:48.240 And they began to say, hi, Ruth, how are you? 74 00:03:48.460 --> 00:03:52.380 She realized that it was the boys from the Royal Ballet. 75 00:03:52.880 --> 00:03:54.060 That's so funny. 76 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:56.340 She is terrific. 77 00:03:56.340 --> 00:03:59.580 You started to say before that you really admire her. 78 00:04:00.100 --> 00:04:03.140 Oh, I do, because I think that in her day, 79 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:05.240 first of all, to be a woman choreographer, 80 00:04:06.140 --> 00:04:07.600 it must not have been easy. 81 00:04:08.600 --> 00:04:11.340 And she just persevered. 82 00:04:12.580 --> 00:04:14.880 And she just, she did what she wanted. 83 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:20.100 I think she did great work with the ballets that she brought. 84 00:04:20.780 --> 00:04:23.520 I mean, she did ballets that nobody was doing, 85 00:04:23.520 --> 00:04:29.240 like the opera ballets and bringing them to life story ballets. 86 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:30.940 And she loved them. 87 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:35.420 It was a really good work. 88 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:37.620 And she'd worked with so many terrific people. 89 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:43.340 I remember I once breezed through Chicago and I stopped at the opera 90 00:04:43.340 --> 00:04:49.300 and I saw Harold Crotsburg doing, I guess it was Carmina Barana at that time. 91 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.280 And I went back and I saw Ruth. 92 00:04:52.280 --> 00:04:55.900 And it just was, it's always kind of exciting to be around Ruth 93 00:04:55.900 --> 00:05:03.380 because she's just very vivacious, interested and interesting. 94 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:07.840 You know, and you always know that it's going to be lots of surprises 95 00:05:07.840 --> 00:05:10.200 and good things in store. 96 00:05:11.100 --> 00:05:13.140 What was it like working on The Merry Widow? 97 00:05:13.860 --> 00:05:20.160 Well, it was hard for me because I got a call from Ruth asking me to do it. 98 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:23.900 And I said, oh, Ruth, I just can't because I haven't danced 99 00:05:23.900 --> 00:05:26.160 and I just had my baby. 100 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.220 And I really didn't want to dance. 101 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:32.220 And I said, I'm really in terrible shape. 102 00:05:33.100 --> 00:05:35.600 And she sort of got me to do it. 103 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:38.360 And it was a wonderful experience. 104 00:05:38.620 --> 00:05:42.140 She said that Larry Long would teach us, 105 00:05:42.180 --> 00:05:44.300 it would be all the New York City ballet dancers. 106 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:46.420 My partner would be Peter Martins. 107 00:05:46.420 --> 00:05:50.060 And I was a little dubious about doing it 108 00:05:50.060 --> 00:05:53.600 because I felt that I wasn't that ready. 109 00:05:53.860 --> 00:05:55.020 You know, I felt overweight. 110 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:59.340 And I was nervous about dancing again after taking a year off. 111 00:06:00.180 --> 00:06:03.620 And she just made me feel wonderful. 112 00:06:03.820 --> 00:06:08.700 She made me feel like I could do it and, you know, don't worry about it. 113 00:06:08.760 --> 00:06:13.520 I think, you know, when I did do the Nutcracker for her, 114 00:06:13.520 --> 00:06:16.580 she always made me feel wonderful. 115 00:06:16.900 --> 00:06:19.940 She made me feel special as a dancer, you know. 116 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:22.940 I felt appreciated. 117 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:24.840 And I wanted to do it for her. 118 00:06:25.220 --> 00:06:28.920 And the experience of doing Mary Widow, I was really looking forward to. 119 00:06:29.580 --> 00:06:32.240 It's such a glamorous role and the music's wonderful. 120 00:06:32.900 --> 00:06:37.580 And she sent me a tape that I could look at and see, you know, 121 00:06:37.760 --> 00:06:39.240 I think if I wanted to do it. 122 00:06:40.400 --> 00:06:41.920 And I looked at it. 123 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:43.280 I loved it. 124 00:06:43.760 --> 00:06:47.720 And we did it in a really short amount of time. 125 00:06:47.880 --> 00:06:50.200 We had two weeks of rehearsing in New York. 126 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:52.660 Actually, it was five days, ten days. 127 00:06:53.100 --> 00:06:56.000 And then we flew to Chicago and filmed it. 128 00:06:56.580 --> 00:06:57.820 And I was very nervous. 129 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:00.360 But she was there. 130 00:07:01.020 --> 00:07:03.100 And she was very supportive. 131 00:07:04.700 --> 00:07:08.740 What kinds of things does she say to give you a supportive feeling? 132 00:07:08.940 --> 00:07:09.980 Like, for example, what would you? 133 00:07:09.980 --> 00:07:13.500 Well, does she seem pleased at what she was seeing? 134 00:07:14.320 --> 00:07:16.760 And that gives a lot of confidence to you. 135 00:07:16.940 --> 00:07:20.100 And you feel like you're not quite up to it. 136 00:07:20.380 --> 00:07:22.720 And I kept saying, I'm really not in that great. 137 00:07:22.860 --> 00:07:25.280 And she just said, you know, it looks fine. 138 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.800 And it looks good. 139 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:35.420 And there are a lot of people who would say that, a lot of people do say, 140 00:07:35.420 --> 00:07:41.160 Well, George Balanchine is one tradition, indeed, almost his own. 141 00:07:41.960 --> 00:07:45.500 Well, it would be too far to say genre, but certainly his own. 142 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:50.140 And Ruth Page, it's entirely different kinds. 143 00:07:50.500 --> 00:07:52.840 It's an entirely different kind of choreography. 144 00:07:53.180 --> 00:07:57.240 Can you talk about the differences between, after all, you're a Balanchine ballerina, 145 00:07:57.780 --> 00:08:00.280 the differences between the two? 146 00:08:00.280 --> 00:08:04.760 Well, I grew up as a Balanchine dancer. 147 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:06.720 Excuse me, we can't have the walking. 148 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:09.700 Mynella? 149 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:12.820 She's gone. Okay. 150 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.240 You can't compare the differences. 151 00:08:19.940 --> 00:08:23.220 I mean, you can't compare a Balanchine to a Ruth Page. 152 00:08:23.980 --> 00:08:25.840 There's no way you could compare them. 153 00:08:25.840 --> 00:08:31.980 You know, Ruth was doing something in totally different, in a different vein than Mr. Balanchine was. 154 00:08:32.660 --> 00:08:39.080 And of course, I felt right at home having ballets choreographed for me by this great genius. 155 00:08:40.100 --> 00:08:49.240 And to go to something like the Merry Widow was so much fun, you know, to have a story ballet with being a character. 156 00:08:49.880 --> 00:08:54.860 It was very appealing and something that I really loved, wearing beautiful costumes. 157 00:08:54.860 --> 00:09:00.420 And having a full work, you know, a full evening of dance there. 158 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:07.140 But there's no way you could compare the two because choreographically, you know, they're worlds apart. 159 00:09:07.300 --> 00:09:16.260 And I think that, you know, I know that Ruth thought so much of Mr. Balanchine, 160 00:09:16.300 --> 00:09:19.080 and I think Mr. B probably really liked Ruth. 161 00:09:20.380 --> 00:09:21.820 He ever say anything to you about Ruth? 162 00:09:21.940 --> 00:09:22.400 No. 163 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.220 Did you, when you went to dance the Merry Widow, 164 00:09:27.800 --> 00:09:34.520 you knew that a lot of really quite famous ballerinas had danced it before you? 165 00:09:34.740 --> 00:09:36.340 How does that bother you when you do it? 166 00:09:36.340 --> 00:09:40.220 And you knew that you were dancing it for television, so this was going to be the performance. 167 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:44.880 Does that ever bother you when you're dancing a role that, you know, a lot of other dancers have danced? 168 00:09:44.880 --> 00:09:47.460 Oh, no. No. I don't think so. 169 00:09:47.660 --> 00:09:48.440 Does it make it more of a challenge? 170 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:51.220 I, now that you mention it, I hadn't even thought about it. 171 00:09:51.280 --> 00:09:52.880 It didn't even enter my mind. 172 00:09:54.100 --> 00:09:58.800 Because I knew that what I would bring would be something different. 173 00:10:01.040 --> 00:10:08.760 And I just think that I took the joy of dancing that, those steps, and that, with that music. 174 00:10:09.020 --> 00:10:16.320 I mean, I have always loved waltz, you know, and I wish I could do Merry Widow again. 175 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:18.060 And I'd love to do it on stage. 176 00:10:18.680 --> 00:10:21.120 You know, I'd love to do a real performance of it. 177 00:10:21.380 --> 00:10:25.420 In a performance, in a real theater would be great. 178 00:10:25.980 --> 00:10:28.120 But I really hadn't thought about that. 179 00:10:28.560 --> 00:10:29.680 Or other roles either. 180 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:31.980 I think when I was young, I did. 181 00:10:32.340 --> 00:10:41.420 When I was first starting out as a dancer, I was so kind of imbued with the beauty of those great ballerinas, 182 00:10:41.680 --> 00:10:45.060 the Balanchine ballerinas who did the roles that I later danced. 183 00:10:45.060 --> 00:10:51.260 And they left such a vivid impression on, you know, my being. 184 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:55.280 That I, of course, I was intimidated by the ballerinas. 185 00:10:55.780 --> 00:11:00.540 But because I hadn't really ever seen the Merry Widow done by anyone. 186 00:11:02.500 --> 00:11:08.060 And so I had nothing to be, you know, concerned about. 187 00:11:09.100 --> 00:11:14.540 When you looked at the performance afterward, when you saw the videotape, what, oh, 188 00:11:14.540 --> 00:11:16.300 there's the, there's the. 189 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:17.420 Can you ask me a question? 190 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:17.780 Okay. 191 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:27.760 What new thing did, if anything, did you see about Patricia McBride as you looked at yourself in that role? 192 00:11:27.940 --> 00:11:29.280 Was there anything new that you saw? 193 00:11:29.900 --> 00:11:31.960 What struck you about it that was? 194 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:33.160 I don't know. 195 00:11:33.500 --> 00:11:36.500 I remember the first day was a disaster. 196 00:11:36.700 --> 00:11:38.280 I felt I did my worst. 197 00:11:38.280 --> 00:11:44.840 It was the first dance, the red dance with the boys. 198 00:11:45.680 --> 00:11:53.160 And I was very depressed that evening because I thought, oh, it's so hard, first of all, to go to start filming. 199 00:11:53.300 --> 00:11:57.300 When you don't have an audience there, I felt a little silly. 200 00:11:58.040 --> 00:12:00.560 I didn't feel like I was really into it. 201 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:04.560 And I think it took a while, you know, to really get into it. 202 00:12:04.560 --> 00:12:09.000 And the more days we went by, the more I felt really with it. 203 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:11.840 But it just took a long time. 204 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:14.660 And as far as seeing it, I liked what I saw. 205 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:16.920 I think it came off really very well. 206 00:12:18.400 --> 00:12:26.560 I loved seeing those beautiful costumes and especially I love the last, that last dance and the white gown with the black hat. 207 00:12:27.260 --> 00:12:32.200 I don't often see myself looking that way, you know, in beautiful costumes. 208 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:35.880 We don't wear that many costumes in New York City Ballet. 209 00:12:36.820 --> 00:12:42.740 And it was a very sumptuous performance, you know, the sets. 210 00:12:43.180 --> 00:12:49.220 It was a very nice experience working and all the dancers from City Ballet, you know, were there. 211 00:12:49.280 --> 00:12:51.600 So it was a very comfortable experience. 212 00:12:52.380 --> 00:12:56.300 And Becky Wright, too, and George were there. 213 00:12:56.680 --> 00:12:59.240 So that was very nice to see them dancing. 214 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:03.440 And Larry, Larry did, he went in at the last minute. 215 00:13:03.620 --> 00:13:06.020 He did his, you know, original role. 216 00:13:07.620 --> 00:13:09.340 And Warren did. 217 00:13:09.760 --> 00:13:10.380 Warren Conover. 218 00:13:10.780 --> 00:13:11.760 Conover did that also. 219 00:13:12.820 --> 00:13:16.000 So it was a very nice experience, you know. 220 00:13:16.780 --> 00:13:23.160 Tell me a little bit about Saint Tropez, visiting in Saint Tropez and what it was like. 221 00:13:24.620 --> 00:13:28.080 Oh, well, my husband being French, we were visiting. 222 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:32.360 And where his family was, and we were in the south of France. 223 00:13:32.580 --> 00:13:37.400 And Ruth had said, oh, if you're ever near, please come down and visit. 224 00:13:37.560 --> 00:13:41.260 So we took her up on this invitation and we went. 225 00:13:41.540 --> 00:13:44.600 Her friend John Terrace was there, who's a good friend of ours. 226 00:13:45.500 --> 00:13:48.320 And we went to her house and it was wonderful. 227 00:13:48.860 --> 00:13:52.440 She had said that it's on the street that Brigitte Bardot lived. 228 00:13:52.440 --> 00:14:00.460 And she had a wonderful, wonderful house, you know, with I think old memories. 229 00:14:00.860 --> 00:14:06.280 She has, she's a collector and she has many things that she's collected over the years. 230 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.400 And we had a wonderful time. 231 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:10.620 She took us to the beach. 232 00:14:10.680 --> 00:14:12.900 It was just before Jean-Pierre and I got married. 233 00:14:14.460 --> 00:14:16.800 And we just had a wonderful time. 234 00:14:16.940 --> 00:14:20.700 It was, we always have a good time with Ruth, though, wherever we go. 235 00:14:20.700 --> 00:14:26.940 She kind of knows how to entertain and make people feel at ease and having a good time. 236 00:14:27.540 --> 00:14:32.400 What is it, people say that all the time, and certainly I know her well and know that it's true. 237 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:37.440 What is that quality about her that you find most inviting? 238 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:49.360 Well, I think down deep, you trust her because you know what she says is honest from her own point of view. 239 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:53.820 If she says she likes something, she really likes it, you know. 240 00:14:54.800 --> 00:15:00.640 And she has a youthfulness about her and she's not a stuffy. 241 00:15:00.740 --> 00:15:02.640 I mean, she's kind of a free spirit. 242 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:10.700 I feel that she's always kind of done what she wanted, even though, you know, nothing is easy. 243 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:17.120 And it probably wasn't easy for her, you know, being a woman and choreographing and, you know, 244 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:23.760 having those strains of having your own company and being, you know, very responsible. 245 00:15:24.580 --> 00:15:27.200 You know, it's a very difficult thing to do. 246 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:42.780 But she has a whole lot of gumption and spirit and stick-to-it-iveness that I think has probably enabled her to triumph over a great many things. 247 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:44.140 I think so. 248 00:15:44.140 --> 00:15:55.460 When you think about her, when you think about Ruth, what's the first thing about her that comes to your mind? 249 00:15:56.700 --> 00:15:58.020 Well, she's a real character. 250 00:15:58.520 --> 00:16:01.800 I mean, a lovable, dear, fun person. 251 00:16:02.880 --> 00:16:08.160 And I think I admire her because she has such a love of dance. 252 00:16:08.220 --> 00:16:09.540 She likes it. 253 00:16:09.760 --> 00:16:13.300 You know, she's only there because she's doing what she loves to do. 254 00:16:13.300 --> 00:16:16.620 And she needs to release all these creative things. 255 00:16:16.680 --> 00:16:21.160 She has a mind that's busy, that's, you know, full of ideas. 256 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:27.040 And she did all these wonderful ballets because she had to. 257 00:16:27.520 --> 00:16:36.400 And she's, you know, she entertained at the same time as bringing and giving dancers, you know, a place to work, you know. 258 00:16:36.400 --> 00:16:40.380 And she did a really great thing for Chicago all those years. 259 00:16:40.380 --> 00:16:42.520 You know, they didn't really have a company. 260 00:16:42.940 --> 00:16:46.440 If it wouldn't have been for Ruth Pates, where would the dancers would have been? 261 00:16:46.740 --> 00:16:47.980 And she was sort of a mother. 262 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:59.240 I mean, it was like a mother figure who is kind of half mother and also, you know, boss and choreographer. 263 00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:01.680 But I think she always had warmth. 264 00:17:01.740 --> 00:17:04.360 She's a very warm person, a very loving person. 265 00:17:04.360 --> 00:17:13.100 And she had a great desire to choreograph, you know, and she stuck to it. 266 00:17:14.660 --> 00:17:17.760 And, you know, it was wonderful. 267 00:17:18.360 --> 00:17:18.860 I'm sorry. 268 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:21.100 When you think of her accomplishments, it's fine. 269 00:17:21.260 --> 00:17:23.040 She'll cut this and make this wonderful. 270 00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:23.520 Oh, yes. 271 00:17:23.600 --> 00:17:24.200 Oh, don't worry. 272 00:17:24.260 --> 00:17:24.900 It is going great. 273 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:26.140 We need to change tape now. 274 00:17:26.260 --> 00:17:27.300 We need to just change video. 275 00:17:27.300 --> 00:17:28.400 I'm getting so nervous.