WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.300 --> 00:00:10.760 It's 3 July 85, we're in the cafeteria of the Ruth Bates School of Ballet. 2 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:14.100 This will be bars and tone for the next 30 seconds. 3 00:00:14.100 --> 00:00:15.080 Are you there? 4 00:00:15.360 --> 00:00:19.480 No, she wasn't under there. I was under Ruth Rapinski. 5 00:00:19.940 --> 00:00:22.740 She and I were under our thing. 6 00:00:25.400 --> 00:00:28.480 Do you know I told Barbara about that when I went to lunch? 7 00:00:28.780 --> 00:00:34.320 She doesn't remember. You know, I said, you and Etta were so dramatic that it made us laugh. 8 00:00:36.980 --> 00:00:37.920 Which is true. 9 00:00:39.800 --> 00:00:42.640 Right, she started in that opera. 10 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:45.880 It's funny because we found a program the other night. 11 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:50.720 Dolores was looking through an old box of photographs and everything. 12 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:58.100 And in it was the year that you did Lord Byron's Love Letters, 13 00:00:58.420 --> 00:01:04.160 Raphael de Banfield, when Brianski came and Carol Lawrence was there. 14 00:01:05.440 --> 00:01:08.080 Markova did Revenge with Sonia. 15 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:10.980 That was 55, right. 16 00:01:10.980 --> 00:01:16.720 And the people whose names came out of that, looking at the opera program. 17 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:17.400 Anya Lee. 18 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:24.080 Anya Lee, of course, actually I think it was before you. It was before me. 19 00:01:24.940 --> 00:01:28.740 But Gene Rapinski was one, Hurskin and Black. 20 00:01:30.600 --> 00:01:32.140 Those boys from your school. 21 00:01:32.340 --> 00:01:32.520 Manny Winston. 22 00:01:32.520 --> 00:01:34.420 Manny Winston, right. 23 00:01:34.780 --> 00:01:37.460 Jimmy Moore was in there with a different name. 24 00:01:37.460 --> 00:01:43.340 You know what I thought that Kenny probably would have done it, because he liked to keep all the records. 25 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:49.980 If we could have taken a map of the United States and just done a couple of tours, 26 00:01:50.460 --> 00:01:53.780 how we moved around them, zigzagged around that country. 27 00:01:53.780 --> 00:01:56.380 We never saved any of our itineraries, did you? 28 00:01:57.100 --> 00:02:01.000 I have a box of memories somewhere and I can't find it. It's buried someplace. 29 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:01.900 That would have been fun. 30 00:02:01.900 --> 00:02:04.860 I wish we could have done it. That would have been really great fun. 31 00:02:04.860 --> 00:02:13.720 My first year, when I first joined the company, the tour started in January and went January, February, March, April. 32 00:02:14.140 --> 00:02:17.660 And we didn't come back, I think, until like May 17th or something like that. 33 00:02:17.660 --> 00:02:18.380 I thought they were all the same. 34 00:02:18.820 --> 00:02:20.220 No, not that one. 35 00:02:20.220 --> 00:02:21.880 No, they were long-term. 36 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:28.800 As the tour got, as the company got older, they came down to about 16 or 17 weeks. 37 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:30.660 Do you remember the times? 38 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:31.460 Spent 16 weeks all together. 39 00:02:32.040 --> 00:02:34.220 But at the beginning, they had been much longer than that. 40 00:02:34.220 --> 00:02:37.540 At the beginning, you did both tours. 41 00:02:37.540 --> 00:02:39.180 Both coasts in one year. 42 00:02:39.180 --> 00:02:40.220 That's because you were before Nutcracker. 43 00:02:40.860 --> 00:02:41.680 That was a lot of traveling. 44 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:43.140 That was before Nutcracker. 45 00:02:43.220 --> 00:02:46.360 Do you remember when we used to meet Ballet Russe for rest stops? 46 00:02:46.640 --> 00:02:49.340 Sometimes Ballet Russe was touring at the same time we were. 47 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:56.560 And we would happen to stop for a rest stop, which we would go to the bathroom and we would have a cup of coffee or something in between. 48 00:02:57.220 --> 00:03:00.040 And we'd run into Ballet Russe that were on their rest stops. 49 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.300 They were going the other way and we were going the other way. 50 00:03:02.300 --> 00:03:04.320 They toured nine months of the year. 51 00:03:04.420 --> 00:03:06.780 They toured. They were the only company that toured more than we did. 52 00:03:07.580 --> 00:03:09.340 It was Ballet Russe. 53 00:03:09.580 --> 00:03:10.860 Tell us the sunglasses story. 54 00:03:12.320 --> 00:03:13.340 Oh, the sunglasses. 55 00:03:13.480 --> 00:03:14.600 Remember the sunglasses. 56 00:03:14.860 --> 00:03:16.100 Tell that story, Dolores. 57 00:03:16.220 --> 00:03:24.020 Well, I remember Ms. Page, one performance, coming back in an intermission and Don Judge was our stage manager. 58 00:03:25.220 --> 00:03:31.680 And she just came back and really was chewing him out about she couldn't understand how he could let it be so dark 59 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:35.600 that if you were out in the audience, you couldn't see a thing that was going on. 60 00:03:35.700 --> 00:03:38.860 And why should we bother doing all that dancing if nobody could see it? 61 00:03:39.260 --> 00:03:41.260 And he was a very sweet guy. 62 00:03:41.460 --> 00:03:45.120 Walked right over to her and just said, maybe this is the reason. 63 00:03:45.440 --> 00:03:52.880 And he picked up these glasses she had had her sunglasses on while she was watching the performance and didn't realize it. 64 00:03:53.440 --> 00:03:57.200 And so that was the reason it was so dark out there, that performance. 65 00:03:57.200 --> 00:03:58.900 Do you remember that one with Clive Riccobal? 66 00:03:59.580 --> 00:04:00.340 That tour? 67 00:04:00.820 --> 00:04:04.620 Poor Clive, he couldn't get the curtain open. 68 00:04:04.820 --> 00:04:10.720 He couldn't get every cue read and the curtain up and the show started all at the same time. 69 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:17.020 And one day he called all the cues and everything was right and he said, how's that? 70 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:19.660 And Betty Gour said, aren't you going to raise the curtain? 71 00:04:20.420 --> 00:04:24.620 And he said, oh my God, the curtain, well, instead of raising it, it's starting to come down. 72 00:04:25.020 --> 00:04:27.080 And so we all got lower and lower. 73 00:04:27.080 --> 00:04:29.640 You know, first we crouched and then we went down. 74 00:04:29.740 --> 00:04:35.280 We were flat on our stomachs, the whole cast, and he shot the curtain up like that. 75 00:04:35.440 --> 00:04:38.340 And so we all had to jump up on our feet like in a split second. 76 00:04:39.060 --> 00:04:41.500 Oh, he was a character. 77 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:42.560 He was Murphy's law. 78 00:04:42.940 --> 00:04:43.560 He really was Murphy's law. 79 00:04:43.580 --> 00:04:45.620 He'd start ballets with no people out there. 80 00:04:45.860 --> 00:04:49.480 The music would be playing and then no dancers would be ready to dance. 81 00:04:49.960 --> 00:04:53.120 He started the show without sending the conductor into the pit. 82 00:04:54.220 --> 00:05:02.000 Do you remember the time too that we were in Leadville and we blew out all the lights in the town? 83 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:03.300 Yes, I remember that. 84 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:11.300 And I remember Neil was conducting and we all heard, oh, Don, oh, Don, just like Jack Benny. 85 00:05:11.980 --> 00:05:17.840 And he was telling the stage manager that the orchestra had no lights so they couldn't read the music to play 86 00:05:17.840 --> 00:05:21.600 because they don't memorize all that music like the dancers have to memorize steps. 87 00:05:22.780 --> 00:05:25.640 And that, that, then we were doing Nutcracker. 88 00:05:25.660 --> 00:05:26.900 Henning and Kirsten were with us. 89 00:05:26.980 --> 00:05:28.080 Henning and Kirsten were with us. 90 00:05:28.500 --> 00:05:32.980 And I remember because I was doing The Walls of the Flowers and Leadville was very hard to breathe. 91 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:33.360 Do you remember? 92 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:33.860 Yes, yes. 93 00:05:33.860 --> 00:05:35.620 There was no air there to breathe. 94 00:05:36.460 --> 00:05:42.060 And because there was only a spotlight man, he kept it on me through the whole dance. 95 00:05:42.440 --> 00:05:48.620 And usually in the dance I had places where I rested, but because I had the only light on, I couldn't rest. 96 00:05:48.620 --> 00:05:53.400 And all the corps de ballet was laughing because they were in the dark and I was in the light and it was hard to breathe. 97 00:05:53.540 --> 00:05:56.540 And I had to keep doing things because I had light. 98 00:05:57.140 --> 00:05:59.980 Well, then the best part, the orchestra managed. 99 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:06.680 They weren't really playing well, but a few instruments were playing so that you could recognize what you were dancing to. 100 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:12.960 But then our guest artists came on to do the grand pas de deux and the conductor had to sing it. 101 00:06:14.200 --> 00:06:17.960 He was singing it. 102 00:06:29.200 --> 00:06:31.940 And then I remember when I was doing the grand pas de deux, I was singing it. 103 00:06:32.060 --> 00:06:35.020 And then I remember when I was doing the grand pas de deux, I was singing it. 104 00:06:35.020 --> 00:06:37.180 And then I remember when I was doing the grand pas de deux, I was singing it. 105 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:38.000 And then I remember when I was doing the grand pas de deux, I was singing it. 106 00:06:39.320 --> 00:06:40.500 And then I remember when I was doing the grand pas de deux, I was singing it. 107 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:41.800 And then I remember when I was doing the grand pas de deux, I was singing it. 108 00:06:42.320 --> 00:06:43.320 And then I remember when I was doing the grand pas de deux, I was singing it. 109 00:06:43.320 --> 00:06:44.360 And then I remember when I was doing the grand pas de deux, I was singing it. 110 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:46.540 And then I remember when I was doing the grand pas de deux, I was singing it. 111 00:06:46.540 --> 00:06:47.940 And then I remember when I was doing the grand pas de deux, I was singing it. 112 00:07:06.980 --> 00:07:12.400 I'm going to sing a little bit of the song. 113 00:07:14.060 --> 00:07:14.800 I'm going to sing a little bit of the song. 114 00:07:17.080 --> 00:07:17.580 I'm going to sing a little bit of the song. 115 00:07:17.580 --> 00:07:17.680 I'm going to sing a little bit of the song. 116 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:17.700 I'm going to sing a little bit of the song. 117 00:07:17.700 --> 00:07:17.700 118 00:07:17.700 --> 00:07:17.700 119 00:07:17.700 --> 00:07:17.700 120 00:07:17.700 --> 00:07:17.700 121 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:17.720 122 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:17.720 123 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:17.720 124 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:17.720 125 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:17.720 126 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:24.860 You know, and I couldn't believe he knew that. 127 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:28.080 He knew all those parts you never would sing. 128 00:07:28.280 --> 00:07:30.720 He knew all those parts you never would sing. 129 00:07:30.760 --> 00:07:32.580 And they're out there fighting and dancing. 130 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:32.600 131 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:34.400 And there's a horrible voice from the wings. 132 00:07:34.940 --> 00:07:37.340 We get it all over with and Miss Paige comes back and says, 133 00:07:37.660 --> 00:07:39.100 But that was just awful. 134 00:07:39.460 --> 00:07:40.420 We fixed the machine. 135 00:07:40.500 --> 00:07:42.320 Let's do it all over again. 136 00:07:42.580 --> 00:07:43.480 And everybody went, 137 00:07:44.280 --> 00:07:47.700 Do you mean we're going to have to dance this whole thing again right away? 138 00:07:47.700 --> 00:07:51.000 And she went, Oh yes, for the audience sake. 139 00:07:51.760 --> 00:07:52.560 Did you do it again? 140 00:07:52.760 --> 00:07:53.920 Yes, they had to do it again. 141 00:07:54.980 --> 00:07:55.280 Oh, I know. 142 00:07:55.520 --> 00:07:55.980 I love that. 143 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:57.740 I'm glad I did that one. 144 00:07:58.980 --> 00:08:00.980 I tell you, I think that's a feat. 145 00:08:01.060 --> 00:08:02.260 We should send that to Guinness. 146 00:08:04.260 --> 00:08:08.340 One horrible voice screeching out that entire score. 147 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:09.500 One horrible voice screeching out that entire score. 148 00:08:09.520 --> 00:08:09.520 149 00:08:09.780 --> 00:08:12.540 Tchaikovsky must have been dizzy by the end of that. 150 00:08:13.220 --> 00:08:13.780 Tchaikovsky must have been dizzy by the end of that. 151 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.320 There's also the wonderful time that we were doing 152 00:08:16.320 --> 00:08:19.420 We were in the opera and we were all sitting around 153 00:08:19.420 --> 00:08:21.180 in our dressing room. 154 00:08:21.180 --> 00:08:23.640 We must tell the best opera story. 155 00:08:23.760 --> 00:08:24.060 We must tell the best opera story. 156 00:08:24.060 --> 00:08:25.880 We can do it now without being killed. 157 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:26.840 How bad is it? 158 00:08:27.220 --> 00:08:28.240 It's not bad. 159 00:08:28.580 --> 00:08:29.380 Well, it's terrible. 160 00:08:29.440 --> 00:08:30.640 It depends on your point of view. 161 00:08:31.320 --> 00:08:34.220 Do you remember when Sutherland was doing Lucia? 162 00:08:34.220 --> 00:08:36.880 Oh, don't you tell that on me, please. 163 00:08:36.880 --> 00:08:37.740 I'm going to. 164 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:39.860 At the opera, 165 00:08:43.400 --> 00:08:44.900 our dressing room was on two ends. 166 00:08:44.900 --> 00:08:46.100 There was that catwalk. 167 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:47.300 Do you remember? 168 00:08:47.920 --> 00:08:50.020 Dolores loved Lucia from the time 169 00:08:50.020 --> 00:08:52.280 Carlos did it there. 170 00:08:52.580 --> 00:08:53.420 Sutherland was doing it. 171 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:56.080 It was his debut in Chicago 172 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:57.660 with Lyric Opera 173 00:08:58.900 --> 00:09:00.120 doing Lucia. 174 00:09:01.640 --> 00:09:03.360 Dolores, unbeknownst, 175 00:09:03.420 --> 00:09:04.960 unrealizing what was happening, 176 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:07.380 would go out on that catwalk 177 00:09:07.380 --> 00:09:08.900 and sing 178 00:09:08.900 --> 00:09:11.280 all of the arias with 179 00:09:11.280 --> 00:09:12.240 Dolores. 180 00:09:13.300 --> 00:09:14.260 With Sutherland, 181 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:15.460 with Joan Sutherland. 182 00:09:16.140 --> 00:09:18.160 I was in the dressing room, and there she is 183 00:09:18.160 --> 00:09:20.360 just singing. Well, the acoustics are enough 184 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:21.800 in that huge cavernous 185 00:09:21.800 --> 00:09:24.320 backstage that it was going all over. 186 00:09:24.660 --> 00:09:26.220 Well, they must have thought that 187 00:09:26.220 --> 00:09:27.940 Sutherland had a kind of 188 00:09:27.940 --> 00:09:30.240 I beg your pardon, a very nice voice. 189 00:09:31.560 --> 00:09:32.380 Well, but Sutherland, 190 00:09:32.540 --> 00:09:33.180 you ain't, dear. 191 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:36.020 Well, they were sending people. 192 00:09:36.100 --> 00:09:37.680 They had no idea where it was coming from. 193 00:09:37.680 --> 00:09:40.600 That's when Paris was the stage manager. 194 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:42.600 She came tearing up to find out 195 00:09:43.280 --> 00:09:43.760 where this was coming from. 196 00:09:43.760 --> 00:09:46.340 Carol Fox had come running back from the audience 197 00:09:46.340 --> 00:09:48.240 that they heard this 198 00:09:49.100 --> 00:09:50.140 sound accompanying. 199 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:53.240 I mean, I only did it when she did her solo. 200 00:09:53.640 --> 00:09:55.320 When he came up 201 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:56.820 and said, my God, where is that 202 00:09:56.820 --> 00:09:59.040 Sutherland? Well, Mel came running up 203 00:09:59.040 --> 00:10:00.920 and said to me, Dolores, Dolores, 204 00:10:01.260 --> 00:10:02.680 they're going to kill you if 205 00:10:02.680 --> 00:10:04.660 they catch you. Everybody's all 206 00:10:04.660 --> 00:10:06.540 over the theater trying to find this person 207 00:10:06.540 --> 00:10:08.060 who's singing with Sutherland. Another one. 208 00:10:08.060 --> 00:10:09.340 Get off of there. 209 00:10:09.900 --> 00:10:11.700 So I ran and hid. 210 00:10:11.880 --> 00:10:13.940 I was terrified that somebody would 211 00:10:14.880 --> 00:10:16.060 know that it was me 212 00:10:16.060 --> 00:10:17.640 that had been singing and tell them. 213 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:19.300 And she would kill me herself. 214 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.060 And I remember they ran 215 00:10:22.060 --> 00:10:23.960 around for a couple hours. 216 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:24.980 I hid in a dressing room. 217 00:10:25.880 --> 00:10:28.360 I mean, it was the talk of the theater for that whole season. 218 00:10:28.620 --> 00:10:29.940 Did we know who had done it? 219 00:10:30.220 --> 00:10:31.180 The Phantom of the Opera. 220 00:10:31.180 --> 00:10:33.960 The Phantom of the Opera was Dolores 221 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:35.980 just up there vocalizing 222 00:10:35.980 --> 00:10:36.600 like crazy. 223 00:10:37.500 --> 00:10:39.800 And the funny thing was I didn't know the words. 224 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:41.320 You know, I would know a few words. 225 00:10:41.380 --> 00:10:43.540 You know, a Dio and a few of those things. 226 00:10:43.880 --> 00:10:45.900 And then it would be a lot of la la la 227 00:10:45.900 --> 00:10:47.440 and stuff in there. 228 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:50.100 Do you also remember 229 00:10:50.100 --> 00:10:52.020 the time I had that solo to do 230 00:10:52.020 --> 00:10:54.120 behind the singer? Oh, that was supposed 231 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:55.920 to be Patricia. Do you remember that? 232 00:10:56.300 --> 00:10:58.200 You put your foot down. You said, I won't 233 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.200 do that. Well, it was another one of those 234 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:02.340 opera singers making her debut 235 00:11:02.340 --> 00:11:03.380 at Lyric. Yes. 236 00:11:03.380 --> 00:11:05.840 You know her name. Tatiana Troianos. 237 00:11:05.980 --> 00:11:07.400 Oh, yeah. I thought it was 238 00:11:08.900 --> 00:11:09.860 Elena Suleotis. 239 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:11.260 Right. That's what it was. 240 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:13.320 And she was going to make her debut 241 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:15.120 in Helen of Troy. 242 00:11:15.940 --> 00:11:17.860 No, it was in 243 00:11:17.860 --> 00:11:19.220 Boitius Mephistopheles, wasn't it? 244 00:11:19.340 --> 00:11:20.940 Helen of Troy. 245 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:22.260 No, that's the character she played. 246 00:11:22.880 --> 00:11:25.240 And she was singing about the sack of Troy. 247 00:11:25.400 --> 00:11:27.460 And I was her ego 248 00:11:27.460 --> 00:11:29.300 or her alter person. 249 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:31.380 And I had to come out and do 250 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:34.120 visually what she was singing about. 251 00:11:34.660 --> 00:11:35.460 And she was very 252 00:11:38.060 --> 00:11:41.580 upset that I was going to dance her big aria. 253 00:11:41.740 --> 00:11:43.840 And I didn't blame her. I didn't want to do the dance either. 254 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:45.120 It was the best thing though. 255 00:11:45.540 --> 00:11:47.380 I remember at rehearsal, it was 256 00:11:47.380 --> 00:11:49.460 at the stage rehearsal. There's this 257 00:11:51.040 --> 00:11:51.520 sizable 258 00:11:52.520 --> 00:11:54.420 soprano. All done up like that. 259 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:55.620 And she wouldn't sing 260 00:11:55.620 --> 00:11:57.000 because she was saving her voice. 261 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.040 She was a little bit teed off anyway. 262 00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:02.400 And she was going to dance and she was going to come out and dance her aria. 263 00:12:03.020 --> 00:12:03.760 And Dolores 264 00:12:03.760 --> 00:12:05.100 is crouched down here. 265 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:06.920 Do you remember I hid behind her? 266 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:08.940 And then when she went, I did it! 267 00:12:09.100 --> 00:12:12.040 I stepped out and started doing the dance. 268 00:12:12.700 --> 00:12:13.400 Note is the first word. 269 00:12:13.400 --> 00:12:14.400 Note, that's right. 270 00:12:15.160 --> 00:12:16.200 And the dresser heard it. 271 00:12:18.260 --> 00:12:19.200 And you don't hear 272 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:21.040 anything. So from rehearsal, 273 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:23.540 Dolores would say all the words. 274 00:12:23.540 --> 00:12:24.180 All my cues were by words. 275 00:12:24.300 --> 00:12:27.160 So she learned the words. So you hear this tiny little voice 276 00:12:27.160 --> 00:12:28.620 go, note. 277 00:12:28.920 --> 00:12:31.020 And Dolores steps out like that. 278 00:12:31.020 --> 00:12:33.200 And she wouldn't sing and I 279 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:34.940 couldn't do the dance because I was waiting 280 00:12:34.940 --> 00:12:36.680 for her words to make my moves. 281 00:12:36.920 --> 00:12:39.340 I sang it. I started singing 282 00:12:39.340 --> 00:12:41.240 it because I knew the words. 283 00:12:41.880 --> 00:12:43.080 Well, that 284 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:45.320 really teed her off. God, that was really 285 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:47.500 funny. Do you hear me go, note? 286 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:53.160 Well, then that's how we were in the dressing room. 287 00:12:53.880 --> 00:12:55.600 There we were. What was it? 288 00:12:56.100 --> 00:12:56.580 Valkyrie? 289 00:12:58.040 --> 00:12:59.060 Samson and Delilah. 290 00:12:59.940 --> 00:13:02.080 I was supposed to be the first one on stage. 291 00:13:02.520 --> 00:13:03.720 I was the snake 292 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:05.240 doing this big thing. 293 00:13:05.680 --> 00:13:07.600 We were all up there in the dressing room telling stories like this 294 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:09.040 and laughing and laughing and laughing. 295 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:11.340 And all of a sudden we heard of 296 00:13:11.340 --> 00:13:13.760 somebody went, do you hear what they're 297 00:13:13.760 --> 00:13:16.080 playing? Sounds like our music! 298 00:13:16.260 --> 00:13:17.360 And then we all shut up. 299 00:13:18.560 --> 00:13:19.480 And we realized 300 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:21.600 it was our music. Well, we didn't 301 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:23.940 wait for elevators or anything. We started 302 00:13:23.940 --> 00:13:25.400 jumping downstairs 303 00:13:25.940 --> 00:13:28.040 because we knew Miss Page would 304 00:13:28.040 --> 00:13:30.120 kill us for missing that. 305 00:13:30.760 --> 00:13:31.700 I didn't make it. 306 00:13:31.980 --> 00:13:33.300 And he made it! 307 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:36.040 I think it was Ellen, 308 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:38.060 myself, and Chuck. We had this 309 00:13:38.700 --> 00:13:40.100 and we came 310 00:13:40.100 --> 00:13:42.160 running out just in time to start going 311 00:13:43.460 --> 00:13:44.440 except we were 312 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:46.120 laughing, of course, because we 313 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.060 knew that we were going to catch 314 00:13:48.060 --> 00:13:49.100 a heck from her. 315 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:52.180 Do you remember also the time that 316 00:13:52.180 --> 00:13:53.740 Alice was singing 317 00:13:53.740 --> 00:13:55.600 and she had 318 00:13:56.140 --> 00:13:58.020 picked us out as bridesmaids 319 00:13:58.020 --> 00:13:59.980 for her wedding in Norma? 320 00:14:00.280 --> 00:14:02.120 And Miss Page had given us this huge 321 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:04.160 lecture about, I want you to pay 322 00:14:04.160 --> 00:14:06.180 attention the whole time you're in 323 00:14:06.180 --> 00:14:08.160 that scene. Don't let your mind 324 00:14:08.160 --> 00:14:10.140 wander. Don't let your eyes wander. 325 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:11.920 You keep your eyes on her. 326 00:14:12.220 --> 00:14:14.500 Do you remember you were bridesmaid too? 327 00:14:15.060 --> 00:14:16.420 Well, I remember 328 00:14:16.420 --> 00:14:18.140 I was closest. It wound 329 00:14:18.140 --> 00:14:20.120 up the way we ushered in there 330 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.480 that I was the one closest to where 331 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.260 Collis was singing and I was holding my 332 00:14:24.260 --> 00:14:26.060 bouquet and I was very attentive 333 00:14:26.060 --> 00:14:28.260 and they were spitting all over each 334 00:14:28.260 --> 00:14:30.260 other. And pretty soon I got tired 335 00:14:30.260 --> 00:14:32.000 of watching them spit and I started 336 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.260 looking in the pit and I 337 00:14:34.260 --> 00:14:36.620 started looking out at the theater 338 00:14:36.620 --> 00:14:37.720 and wandering 339 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:40.460 and Collis in the middle of her 340 00:14:40.460 --> 00:14:42.240 aria decided to turn 341 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:44.220 around and grab me. 342 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.380 Well, it was as though 343 00:14:46.380 --> 00:14:48.320 Miss Page had screamed at me. I 344 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.500 nearly screamed out loud because 345 00:14:50.500 --> 00:14:52.660 I was so shocked at her 346 00:14:52.660 --> 00:14:54.380 turning and touching me 347 00:14:54.380 --> 00:14:56.380 when I wasn't paying attention as 348 00:14:56.380 --> 00:14:58.220 though it was Miss Page saying, you're not 349 00:14:58.220 --> 00:15:00.220 paying attention to what you're supposed to be doing. And I 350 00:15:00.220 --> 00:15:02.380 almost passed out from fright. I'll never 351 00:15:02.380 --> 00:15:03.340 forget that. 352 00:15:04.580 --> 00:15:06.320 Do you remember how she was 353 00:15:07.160 --> 00:15:08.440 ruthlessly very, very 354 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:09.500 serious about what we did? 355 00:15:10.700 --> 00:15:11.820 Oh, gosh, yes. 356 00:15:12.260 --> 00:15:14.200 Do you remember the time we did the Rata Plum 357 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:16.440 number and the guy wouldn't change? 358 00:15:17.280 --> 00:15:18.920 Change what we were doing and we 359 00:15:18.920 --> 00:15:20.100 did it behind the stairs. 360 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:23.040 We ended up doing it behind the chorus 361 00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:25.020 completely. They lined up across the front of the stage. 362 00:15:25.500 --> 00:15:26.900 You just occasionally saw girls jump 363 00:15:26.900 --> 00:15:28.580 up in the air like that with their arms 364 00:15:28.580 --> 00:15:30.440 and voices. Oh, there were places where we were on people's 365 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:32.700 shoulders and we were carried around so 366 00:15:32.700 --> 00:15:34.700 we were doing strange things 367 00:15:34.700 --> 00:15:35.360 up there. 368 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:38.560 We did lots of wonderful things in the opera. 369 00:15:38.660 --> 00:15:40.080 Do you remember when I grabbed 370 00:15:40.760 --> 00:15:42.740 Stefano? Remember that wonderful 371 00:15:42.740 --> 00:15:43.480 tenor? 372 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:44.040 Stefano. 373 00:15:44.860 --> 00:15:46.680 What's his name? 374 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:48.760 Giuseppe Di Stefano. Right. 375 00:15:49.160 --> 00:15:51.400 We had those funny costumes. They had given 376 00:15:51.400 --> 00:15:53.360 us scarves to cover our bras 377 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:55.360 and then they had given us these funny 378 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:57.540 little skirts. They were only 379 00:15:57.540 --> 00:15:58.760 safety pinned on. 380 00:15:59.400 --> 00:16:01.220 We came out and we were supposed to be 381 00:16:01.220 --> 00:16:03.520 luring him and doing all this stuff with 382 00:16:03.520 --> 00:16:05.080 him and my skirt undid. 383 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.540 All we had on were trunks and no tights 384 00:16:07.540 --> 00:16:09.440 or anything. So I 385 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:11.380 grabbed him and I 386 00:16:11.380 --> 00:16:12.800 ran behind him and I said, don't move. 387 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:15.340 I've got to fix my skirt. And he was like, 388 00:16:15.420 --> 00:16:17.120 who is this person 389 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.200 telling me to stand still? 390 00:16:19.520 --> 00:16:20.900 And I'm going, don't move. Don't move. 391 00:16:21.100 --> 00:16:23.120 I got my skirt pinned and I came out and I wrapped 392 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:23.940 myself around. 393 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:27.140 Who is this girl? 394 00:16:28.940 --> 00:16:29.260 Don't you 395 00:16:29.260 --> 00:16:31.220 remember that? You had some bras 396 00:16:31.220 --> 00:16:33.240 had bulls eyes on them. 397 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:34.940 I don't remember that. 398 00:16:36.380 --> 00:16:37.520 They found costumes 399 00:16:37.520 --> 00:16:39.380 from, oh I don't know, from the 400 00:16:39.380 --> 00:16:40.680 old opera days. 401 00:16:40.940 --> 00:16:42.660 Well remember Maria Toggi. 402 00:16:43.020 --> 00:16:44.120 Dance of the Hours. 403 00:16:44.660 --> 00:16:46.280 And they handed her that costume. 404 00:16:46.940 --> 00:16:47.380 No. 405 00:16:48.520 --> 00:16:51.160 They gave her the most horrible costume 406 00:16:51.160 --> 00:16:52.400 the world has ever seen. 407 00:16:53.060 --> 00:16:54.360 It was, I don't know what it was. 408 00:16:55.140 --> 00:16:57.020 And she just looked at it and she took it out and she said, 409 00:16:57.760 --> 00:16:59.200 I'll take it home and do something 410 00:16:59.200 --> 00:16:59.920 with it. 411 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.980 She bought a nightgown. She bought a Dior nightgown 412 00:17:02.980 --> 00:17:05.020 for a fortune and cut it up and 413 00:17:05.020 --> 00:17:06.940 trimmed some of those beads that were off of that costume 414 00:17:06.940 --> 00:17:08.420 and she put it on and that was what she wore. 415 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:10.960 But she was like so, and Carol Fox said 416 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:12.860 don't tell, sorry Carol, 417 00:17:14.180 --> 00:17:15.100 don't tell Maria 418 00:17:15.100 --> 00:17:16.680 it doesn't look good, she'll never know. 419 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.260 And Ruth was going, oh darling, I don't think so. 420 00:17:23.580 --> 00:17:26.800 I also remember the time talking about costumes when the 421 00:17:26.800 --> 00:17:29.100 Merry Widow first came. Do you remember when we were 422 00:17:29.100 --> 00:17:30.780 up on the seventh floor 423 00:17:30.780 --> 00:17:33.580 and the hats came for the Maxime girls. 424 00:17:33.700 --> 00:17:34.860 Those wonderful hats. 425 00:17:34.860 --> 00:17:37.400 And Miss Page said try on the costumes, let's see what it's 426 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:39.440 going to look like. So I put my hat on 427 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.100 and she said turn 428 00:17:41.100 --> 00:17:43.460 in and do this, do that, let's see how they're going to work 429 00:17:43.460 --> 00:17:45.720 and we did all that. And she said, alright, take those off. 430 00:17:46.120 --> 00:17:47.080 And I was standing 431 00:17:47.080 --> 00:17:49.240 at the back of the room and I took my 432 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:51.220 hat and I did it like a frisbee 433 00:17:51.220 --> 00:17:53.000 and I went, shoop, and it went right 434 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:55.520 into the box and she came over and hit me. 435 00:17:56.780 --> 00:17:58.020 You remember that? 436 00:18:00.140 --> 00:18:02.880 Not realizing that those hats costed $500. 437 00:18:04.660 --> 00:18:06.240 Oh yeah, we did like that. 438 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:08.420 Well do you remember, I'll tell a story of myself, 439 00:18:08.900 --> 00:18:10.740 when the costumes came for Camille 440 00:18:10.740 --> 00:18:13.160 and I was doing the farmer's waltz 441 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:15.060 and all of my costume was there 442 00:18:15.060 --> 00:18:16.880 except the tights. 443 00:18:17.180 --> 00:18:19.940 And she made me do it in my dance belt. 444 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.020 She made me put the costume on and I remember 445 00:18:23.020 --> 00:18:24.560 I had pants on and she said take those off. 446 00:18:24.660 --> 00:18:27.100 I said but Ruth, take those off. 447 00:18:27.620 --> 00:18:28.380 Off they came. 448 00:18:28.840 --> 00:18:31.040 And there I was, bare butt naked 449 00:18:31.040 --> 00:18:32.540 doing the farmer's waltz. 450 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:35.100 Well I just found the pictures recently 451 00:18:35.100 --> 00:18:37.180 of the costumes we wore when we 452 00:18:37.180 --> 00:18:38.620 did Faust in the opera. 453 00:18:39.060 --> 00:18:41.340 Do you remember what those things looked like? 454 00:18:42.040 --> 00:18:42.560 Wow. 455 00:18:43.660 --> 00:18:45.220 We were, all the girls were 456 00:18:45.220 --> 00:18:47.040 bare midriff and we had, 457 00:18:47.360 --> 00:18:49.180 well I just showed it to Sheila and I 458 00:18:49.180 --> 00:18:51.320 like had a bullet over my bra. 459 00:18:51.660 --> 00:18:53.260 I had this bullet like that and I had 460 00:18:53.260 --> 00:18:55.160 a wig on that was gray like a mop. 461 00:18:56.040 --> 00:18:57.200 We had strange 462 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:59.080 costumes. They were wonderful. 463 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:01.540 You had snakes wrapped all around 464 00:19:01.540 --> 00:19:02.840 your arms and all that. Do you remember that? 465 00:19:02.860 --> 00:19:04.740 You spend a lot of time as a snake, I think. 466 00:19:04.980 --> 00:19:07.080 Do you remember the time you 467 00:19:07.080 --> 00:19:09.200 did yourself up? You supered. 468 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.020 Remember how you always loved to super 469 00:19:11.020 --> 00:19:12.620 and we all hated you because you did? 470 00:19:13.120 --> 00:19:15.320 You were crazy about Schwartzcloth and all that. 471 00:19:16.300 --> 00:19:17.320 It took us 20 years 472 00:19:17.320 --> 00:19:19.200 to get out of supering and you always wanted to 473 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:20.600 super so you could see those singers. 474 00:19:21.020 --> 00:19:23.460 But do you remember when you did yourself up as a goat? 475 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:25.500 Oh, Vaughn, yeah. 476 00:19:26.040 --> 00:19:27.000 Yes. What opera was that? 477 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.300 That was 17 years ago. 478 00:19:30.040 --> 00:19:31.500 Vaughn, you know, 479 00:19:31.800 --> 00:19:33.120 a satyr kind of thing 480 00:19:33.120 --> 00:19:34.740 with all curls and horns. 481 00:19:34.900 --> 00:19:36.200 Kind of like your hair. 482 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:40.040 It took me a long time to get it like that. 483 00:19:40.220 --> 00:19:41.300 With made horns. 484 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:43.160 Oh, you made a wonderful make up 485 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:45.280 and everything. You did gray and all that 486 00:19:45.280 --> 00:19:47.100 and minted the body. I remember 487 00:19:47.100 --> 00:19:49.060 we were doing Faberita. I do 488 00:19:49.060 --> 00:19:49.900 remember that. 489 00:19:50.100 --> 00:19:52.960 And I was the like the 490 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:54.540 major donbo or something. 491 00:19:54.540 --> 00:19:56.720 And I had a 492 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:58.100 kind of like a Louis XIV skirt 493 00:19:58.740 --> 00:20:00.560 with a costume with a skirt 494 00:20:00.560 --> 00:20:02.840 on and this curly wig and a big 495 00:20:02.840 --> 00:20:04.740 staff and there were bows every 496 00:20:04.740 --> 00:20:06.820 place. High heels 497 00:20:06.820 --> 00:20:08.420 with bows on them and 498 00:20:08.420 --> 00:20:10.500 it was in the styling 499 00:20:10.500 --> 00:20:12.680 period of everything and you all were dancing 500 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:14.480 but I just had this kind of character and 501 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:16.240 Dolores's father came to the performance 502 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:18.480 and we asked him, you know, well what did you think 503 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:20.500 about? Oh, I liked the dancing pretty 504 00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:22.580 good but who was that old lady who was 505 00:20:22.580 --> 00:20:25.020 in the middle of everything? Dolores said that wasn't the old lady 506 00:20:25.020 --> 00:20:26.940 that was my husband. That was Larry. 507 00:20:28.180 --> 00:20:29.220 I didn't do that 508 00:20:29.220 --> 00:20:30.820 part anymore. I gave it to Barry Edson. 509 00:20:30.860 --> 00:20:31.840 Yeah, you gave it to Barry.